To: K-list 
Recieved: 2001/01/28  16:43  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Both P&P are symptoms of Dis-ease - Kimberly (Sexual Assault) 
From: Christopher Wynter
  
On 2001/01/28  16:43, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list: At 10:04 AM 29/01/01, you wrote: 
> >If we are conscious, we either will not place ourselves on the street at 
> >the precise time the potential truck, rapist or basher is there .. 
> > 
> >or we will walk down the street with inpunity. 
> 
>Referencing the above, I have a question. With rapists or attackers, what  
>part do they play in reality creation? Or is all of this laid at the feet  
>of the one it happened to? What I mean is, what part of creation puts the  
>rapist/attacker there? Them or the 'victim'? How is it related? 
> 
>Kimberly
 Kimberley ..
 
I am referencing all of my remarks in the context of the client - therapist 
relationship .. from the perspective of working with the client ..
 
I do not condone Rape .. or sexual assault .. 
or any of the other things I have mentioned. 
Nor do I take into account here the acts of violence 
associated with war where there are other factors 
  to take into consideration.
 
My point of reference is with the "victim" so-called of the incident .. 
and my work has mostly come in as a last resort after the client 
has done the usual rounds of the sexual assault specialists 
  without finding a resolution
 
I work deeply with the unconscious memories, looking at patterns 
of life leading up to the incident. It is usually as a result of this 
that the client turns to me and says .. "yes, I was putting out 
for this .. and I can see it now" ..
 
  and the result in every case for the client (and I have 14 years 
  of this sort of work to refer to) has been complete resolution ..
 
  although, sometimes it has been necessary to go back 
  several generations to find out where the "victim" has 
  come from.
 
The other one here which is a little more difficult for people to 
come to grips with is the contributing factors in child 
(both male and female) incest ..
 
here again, in many cases, the child is a contributor in observing 
the "terms of love" relationship between parents .. and, in seeking 
the same fulfillment presents him/her self to the perpetrator,
 
In this case, again once the understanding of the awakened nature 
of the sexuality of the child is understood .. and the fact that in many 
cases there is tribal tradition in the ancestry .. the issue finds 
resolution.
 
Again, I do not, in any way condone the actions or the perpetrator  .. 
  but I am working to assist the client find resolution of 
  her/his own conflict.
 
The other interesting thing that arises here is that, in most cases, 
the energy of victim around a childhood sexual "assault" only arises 
within the child from the judgements of the adults projected .. and in 
many cases, I have had to work at resolving the "guilt that someone 
I loved was punished because I allowed them to touch me down there"
 
I have also found that with most of the perpetrators I have worked with, 
there is an unresolved issue within themselves resulting from an 
assault on them as children.
 
The other aspect of resolution comes with understanding .. that there 
can be no blame.  The client, in realising he/she is that way because of 
unresolved prior trauma experience can not only look at the perpetrator 
from a different perspective .. 
  but can also invoke the energy of "forgiveness" 
  based on "father forgive them for they know not what they do"
 I do understand that for many reading this material, 
there may be many conflicts and reactions .. and 
I also understand where those reactions will come from 
for most of you.
 
I am not making your view point wrong .. but, based on my 
work and experience, offering something which may allow 
so an expansion in their understanding ..
 
Kimberley .. I hope this helps ...
 
CW
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