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Recieved: 2001/01/20 12:52
Subject: Re: [K-list] Reply to Angelique
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2001/01/20 12:52, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 06:52 PM 1/19/01, Carol C. wrote:
>MOTIVE in all things is accountable. We could get very lost in semantics,
>and lose simple truth if not careful.
The simple truth is the Goddess does not judge. Limitless manifestation
values every kind of experience, otherwise it would not be limitless.
> When I spoke of intolerance, it was in regard to intolerance of people
> who were simply different in some way and therefore deemed worthy of
> burning at the stake. This type of intolerance could apply to witches,
> homosexuals, Black people, Asians, people on the K list, you, me
Please tell me what you are wanting to do with these intolerant
unenlightened people? Do you want to torture them into enlightenment like
the Spanish inquisition? Do you want to love them into the light? How can
you love them if you are so busy condemning them? Shall we kill off all the
unenlightened people so the rest of us can have some peace and quiet? How
many holy wars and crusades do we need to have, to please you? Or are you a
one-woman crusade?
When I expected rejection, I got rejection.. I'm sure many on the list
remember my saga with the Border Guards.. and it was Blessed, it brought up
all my rejection issues to be cleared.. and now I get acceptance, my
website does not even attract nasty mail, anymore. No stalkers, no
Christians trying to "save" me, no impostors. The K-list is a flame-free
zone, my family is more willing to hear me.. etc. etc.. your beliefs about
the world, create your experience of it. Change the world, by changing
inside yourself.
>Angelique said:
>Everything is made of love, so how can there be a lack of it?
>Everything is love in a higher state of consciousness, but in this plane
>of delusion, ego is most often the motivation behind all things, and ego
>forms the clouds that hide the true nature of love behind all things. This
>is not a world of LOVE, but rather a world of ego and power over others
>seeking.
So why do you choose to live in this world and not the higher one? You
do have a choice, you know.. Take it from me, ascension is a lot of fun,
and when you are ascended, you become invisible to those who would seek to
limit you. The position of spiritual power is "I ATTRACT THAT WHICH
OCCURS". Non-duality.. the world does not have a problem, you have a
problem with the world.
>What is the natural selection of humans on this planet? Is it to be the
>extinction of the enlightened such as Jesus, Ghandi, Martin Luther King.
If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.
> And that is a problem. We crucify or burn every sign of evolution in our
> midst... because of intolerance of anything different from the usual ego
> power seeking.
Richard Bach said "There is no such thing as a problem, without a gift
for you, in it's hands. We seek problems, because we need their gifts".
> > http://darwinawards.com/darwin/
> >"Darwin Awards celebrate the theory of evolution by commemorating the
> >remains of those who improved our gene pool by removing themselves from it
> >in really stupid ways."
>The attitude on this web page stinks to put it bluntly. The people spoken
>of are spirits such as all of us thoroughly lost in delusion. They are not
>to be mocked or made fun of.
Oh, you poor silly thing. I'll make fun of you, instead, since you are
so righteously holy as to try to make those of us who *have* a sense of
humor feel guilty about it. Get a grip! :) Laughter is the nature of
Spirit. Big fat Buddha belly laughter at the joy and folly that is Human.
All the jokes in the world are about pain, death and taxes, because
laughter is the solace that Heals! Find me a joke that does not have a
fall guy?
Two guys walk into a bar.. you'd think the second guy would have seen
it? LOL!
>I found this interesting. Have also had visions I usually choose to ignore
>or play down to myself. And I also live in a small, isolated, self
>sufficient northern community of apx 100 people. I chose this place
>because it had a high spiritual vibratory level. I can feel it in nature
>and in the people.
Well, there ya go.. natural selection.
If you are such a martyr, on this righteous crusade, who not go live in
Harlem or Guatemala where there are people who need help? Why not go fight
for the Taliban women, or work for the red cross in Afghanistan or Kuwait?
Put your money where your mouth is, or admit you are a selfish being who is
willing to take care of yourself and let the rest of the world go to hell,
just like everybody else? Get off your pedestal, and rejoin the human race.
Strong words, but no judgments. It is human nature. Every action, an
equal and *opposite* reaction. Karl Marx had a lot of fancy ideas about how
we should all share and be equal, and the result was Stalin and some of the
ugliest repression the world has ever seen. Jesus had similar ideals, and
the Church has killed more people than any other institution in history.
Human nature is human nature, and it is not gonna be changed by wanting
to change it, despairing of it, wishing to be different, wringing your
hands about what all the "bad" people do. It can only be changed by
accepting it for what it is, so we can make better choices about how it is
expressed.
Before I "came out" as a sadist, I was really not a "nice" person,
although I had a lot of pride in myself about how "spiritual" I was.. I
thought I was so much better than the nasty unenlightened violent people. I
had a lot of sneaky ways to be cruel and some fine, righteous excuses that
allowed me to blame someone else for it. What was repressed, came up ugly.
I cannot get away with that anymore. I own my shadow. It keeps me humble.
If I notice my cruelty sneaking out, as it does sometimes if I have not
been letting my shadow out to play, then I know it is time to tie up my
druid and whack his bottom purple till he goes over the top with endorphins
laughing his head off and speaking in tongues. A fine time will be had by
all.
Humans are violent, territorial creatures, just like most other
animals. Deal with it! Bunnies, birds and flowers, all compete and fight
for resources. We don't see the violence of trees, because it happens so
slowly, but anybody who has ever weeded a garden knows that the life and
death struggle is very real. The difference is, plants and animals don't
have egos to feel guilty about choking out their neighbors, or pretend it
is something different than it is. Nature.
We can be righteous in our violence and insist it is Holy, like the
Spanish inquisition, or we can recognize it for what it is, and give it a
consensual outlet, express it on the football field, the hockey rink, the
dojo, the playroom. The Kung Fu Master tends to be less violent than the
street thug.
Why pride yourself on your holy righteous anger? Your intolerance of
the intolerance is no different than the intolerance that burned witches,
no matter how "enlightened" you insist it is.
Why to be judging the actions of those who are not well enough off to
afford to ignore their natural tribal territorial survival impulses? The
Witches were blamed for the Black Plague, the Jews were blamed for
Germany's terrible economic situation. Fearful people, acting from fear,
and it is only human.
>And I also could be called "witchey" and would be one of the first on the
>bonfire.
Except that you have escaped to your cozy little community where that
is unlikely to happen.
> It will not be the meek or psychic or "witchey" that survive by natural
> selection. Evolution is squelched wherever it appears. Here is a quote by
> a Master by the name of St. Germaine ...a slightly different view? maybe not.
It is not *by* St. Germain, it is by a channeller who is using the name
of St. Germain. Says so right here:
>Saint Germain Press commenced publication in 1934 with Unveiled Mysteries,
>the extraordinary initial experiences of Godfre Ray King with the Ascended
>Master Saint Germain.
What the website does not tell you, is that St. Germain was a real
person, a mysterious Alchemist who was well known in the court of Louis XVI.
http://www.alchemylab.com/count_saint_germain.htm
Instead it offers a fanciful invention.
but hey, I'll respond to it anyway, because it actually validates what
I've been saying, if you look at it with open eyes..
> THE WORDS OF SAINT GERMAIN
> "The hour strikes in the evolution of every planet and its humanity
> when they must express the full peace, harmony, Perfection and the Divine
> Plan of the system to which they belong. When that hour strikes, humanity
> either moves forward and fulfills that plan, or whatever portion will not
> come into alignment with the new Activity removes itself to another
> school room of the Universe, until those personalities learn obedience to life.
Right.. natural selection in action. So, the bad people will be killed
off to reincarnate someplace else, and leave the rest of us in peace? Is
judging the intolerant, seeing perfection in the Divine Plan? Goddess made
us all, and gave us all Free Will.. to create our own heaven or hell, as we
choose.
> "Human beings are the only creator of 'hell'. They can accept and
> obey the Law of Life and enjoy every good thing of the 'Kingdom' or they
> can disobey and be broken as a reed before the storm, by their own
> self-generated discord.
And what would that self generated discord be? Could it be, the misery
you spout in your intolerance?
>Each individual carries his own heaven or hell with him every moment, for
>these are but the results of mental and emotional states which the
>individual has created, because of his own attitude. There is no other
>cause for them.
Well, that says it all.. your misery is caused by your attitude.
There is no other cause. It is not about what someone else does, it is
about your judgments. Your own righteousness causes you to see hell and
misery, and complain about human nature, where I see the perfection of the
Divine Plan..
Yes, even perfection in your silly despair at the human condition. That
kind of Righteousness is a normal phase of K., and you *will* grow out of
it! hopefully, soon....
> "Over the humanly generated chaos of the past, there are being
> poured out by the Ascended Masters and Great Cosmic Messengers, great
> streams of Love and harmony upon which peace depends.
Love and harmony, not intolerance and righteousness.... love thy enemy.
> Mankind, having so long pulled against the Great Cosmic Current of Love
> which ever seeks to bless, is now being compelled to turn around and seek
> the Light in order to survive in the midst of its own destructive
> emanations of the past."
Compelled, by Karma.. which is pretty much what I was saying, in my
last post.
Blessings..
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