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Recieved: 2001/01/08  18:13  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Is Evolution Catching? 
From: Samantha Atkins
  
On 2001/01/08  18:13, Samantha Atkins posted thus to the K-list: Mystress,
 
What I said about science is the way science is structured.  It has 
nothing to do with what I believe.  That that structure rest on things 
that cannot be subjected to the methods of science does of course raise 
some really good questions. 
 
Believe me I do ask God-dess, guru, DNA, ascended masters and anything 
else I've ever heard of for help resolving my doubts.  Over and over and 
over again.  I don't get very clear answers. 
 
Spankings happily accepted.... Polls are irrelevant. 
 
I have tried just believing.  It does not dependably result in miracles 
in my experience.  It is a funny kind of superior way of finding truth 
(superior to reason and such) that only works sometimes and if it 
doesn't work the person attempting to employ/trust it takes all the 
blame.  If it works then it is the power of God-dess, K or whatever.  If 
it doesn't work then it is all the fault of the practitioner.  Science 
is a lot cleaner than that.
 
I don't think it is wrong to question what intuition, mine, yours or 
someone else's, says.  I think it is part of the learning experience and 
that it is part of our self-responsibility to keep some anchoring to our 
intuition.  It does not at all resonate as true to me that intuition 
alone is all we need and that reason and the mind are just ego things 
that screw us up.  
 
I did not ask for iron-clad proofs.  I asked if you had evidence that 
supports what your intuition says on some things or how some of them can 
be so.  I don't believe that that is wrong to do.  For me at least it 
seems to act as necessary counter-balance.  
 
There was admittely some energy that was just my own shit in the initial 
post.  I have a great fear of going into spiritual stuff too deeply and 
loosing all grounding.  Before I have noticed that I tend to open too 
far and become quite over-credulous and believing of even utterly 
bizarre and impossibly contradictory things.  Being spiritual does not 
require becoming a total air-head, does it?   But that was what I found 
myself doing.  So I seek to keep some grounding.  When too much of it 
seems to be slipping too fast I can at times start clawing to regain 
some balance.  
 
Nor is the "shit" just mine.  It is very human and universal.  Saying we 
should just get over it and throw our minds overboard and let whatever 
comes just come and all will be well isn't a message that resonates with 
me or that I think would be helpful for most.  Countless centuries of 
much of the world believing that was the way to do things if you really 
wanted Truth (or alternately that someone else had already done so and 
you should just take their word for it) and a few doing it, by all 
reports did not greatly improve the race.  Much of that time was full of 
a lot of misery and a short and quite brutish existence.  So, even 
historically, I can't honestly see that the mystic way of just total 
surrender is enough.  The ones that have surrendered utterly haven't 
advanced human knowledge and human living conditions nearly so much as 
those damn scientists with their logic and their questioning.
 
So I believe a balance is needed.  I am not free just to go blissfully 
diving into Divine Mother's arms and ignore whether the rest of the 
planet goes to hell in a handbasket or not.  It is not in my nature. I 
don't think it is why I am here.
 
love,
 
 samantha
 
 
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