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Recieved: 2001/01/08  17:17  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Is Evolution Catching? - Samantha + Mystress 
From: Bestpoet
  
On 2001/01/08  17:17, Bestpoet posted thus to the K-list: In a message dated 01/08/2001 3:44:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
samanthaATnospamobjectent.com writes:
 
<< WOW!  Thank you for the most interesting and tantalizing account of 
 extracting memories from DNA.  Although I had thought that Lamarckism, 
 that learned experience can/be is inherited, was pretty much discredited 
 it would appear that not all the evidence has been considered.  >>
 
This is a great thread. I've enjoyed reading it.
 
Years ago I was an anthropology major, and I seem to recall that Lamarckism  
dealt with grosser physical characteristics, not issues of consciousness or  
conscious behavior. Maybe I'm not remembering something. Of course, as you  
point out, Lamarck and Darwin didn't have the benefit of genealoical research  
to work with.
 
I lurk on the Quantum Mind list, which is basically a bunch of physicists and  
philosophers who discuss the nature of consciousness, and it seems pretty  
clear to me that, like space, consciousness is a frontier we know little  
about, on the scientific level at least. A lot of their discussion is over my  
head, but it's interesting to watch scientists discuss this issue, while  
people here on this list seem to have first hand experience of some of what  
eludes Quantum Mind. (I'm not k-awakened, so I'm just witnessing all these  
discussions.)
 
I'm reminded of the early anatomists (as reported by Michel Foucault in "The  
Birth of the Clinic") who thought those skinny little gray strings were  
virtually useless in the body. Turns out, those little strings they so  
confidently flung aside were nerves.
 
Also, "Molecules of Emotion" by Candace B. Pert, who was instrumental in the  
discovery of the opiate receptors in the brain (one of the first receptors to  
be discovered I think), is a great book about neurotransmitters and how our  
emotions interact with them. An obvious example is blushing. Just another  
step, in my intermittently educated opinion, of how our spiritual, emotional,  
physical, intellectual bodies are all integrated in ways that are just  
beginning to come to light.
 
Another great book I highly recommend is "Integral Psychology" by Ken Wilber.  
Wilber is a highly respected philosopher who has widened the scope of  
psychological development to include stages of what this list would call  
k-awakened consciousness -- non-dualism. He has some very interesting things  
to say about the movement of premodernism (basically the ancient spiritual  
teachers), modernism and postmodernism.
 
Briefly, he says that the gift of modernism was that it allowed the  
differentiation of aesthetics (art/beauty), morals (religion) and science.  
The nightmare of modernism is that science subsumed the other two and  
discredited them. He is speaking of the spiritual teachers who knew about and  
had attained non-dual consciousness (a k-awakened state, as I read him), not  
organized religion per se. 
 
As a person who was deeply concerned with the postmodern eclipse of the  
subject, I find this very interesting. Because it was such a dark vision, but  
now I see the possibility of light.
 
In his view, postmodernism has yet to achieve it's promise. It's been  
derailed by killing off the subject, but it's the subject as formulated by  
modernism that's really dead. Postmodernism's real task is to reintegrate  
aesthetics, morals and science in such a way as to include the entire  
consciousness potential. It's quite detailed and a very convincing read (a  
lot of which is in the footnotes, which for some reason annoys me--guess I  
like everything in larger type these days of post-40 eyes).
 
And lastly, in the same spirit, is Anne Carolyn Klein's "Meeting the Great  
Bliss Queen: The Art of Self". She weaves feminism, postmodernism and  
Buddhism together for a mindful methodology of constructing a self, now that  
the self of modernism (the Enlightenment) is dead. Very readable and  
informative book.
 
If anyone knows of any other books along these lines, please let me know.
 
It's so exciting, and I'm actually beginning to believe we humans may REALLY  
be in the stages of evolving our psychological/spiritual beings as a species  
(or several species as the case may be). Not that we don't need more physical  
evolution too. Like, where's that third hand we need for drinking tea now  
that we need two hands to type on the computer? And though I fear the tail  
will never return, it would sure come in "handy" whilst trying to cling to  
the subway bars during rush hour. And what about a third set of teeth?
 
Barg
 
 
 
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