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Recieved: 2001/01/07 21:59
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Is Evolution Catching?
From: Samantha Atkins


On 2001/01/07 21:59, Samantha Atkins posted thus to the K-list:

Did I mention being a double Gemini and quite mercurial? :) Today I am
in a more skeptical/testing mode so please bear with me.

Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
> >On 1/7/01 5:20 PM, "Carol C." <britcarATnospamtbaytel.net> wrote:
> > > Your words about the tree have given me something to think about! Could you
> > > please expand on that idea? Too often humans forget that all of creation is
> > > evolving according to the Divine plan. Thank you for the reminder!
> > >
> > > Love Carol
>
> Thankyou for your warm response.
> My paradigm is simple: All of nature shares 95% of the same DNA.
> Darwinism does not account for all of evolution, because evolution makes
> funny leaps that cannot be accounted for, by Natural Selection. Creationism
> does not work either. Where the two come together, is in the idea that the
> Kundalini Fire Serpent is DNA, and that all DNA on the planet is in unity,
> a collective consciousness.
>

I question some of this. Bacteria and much simpler organisms than
ourselves do not share "95% of the same DNA". Their DNA is a good deal
simpler although obviously related. There is no mechanism by which the
DNA changes that produce one species would travel backward to an earlier
species and become parts of its DNA that I am aware of. Natural
Selection is only one of the methods by which evoluion, changes in the
genetic structure of a population over time, takes place. Which two
coming together? Creationism has zero evidence in its favor. This is
not to say that some/all of life couldn't have been "designed" but that
Creationism has not managed to do much more than throw rocks at
evolution (some on target and a lot off). There is no evidence at my
disposal currently that all DNA on this planet is a collective
consciousnes. That it sometimes feels this way to my intuition is not
enough for me to believe this at this time or to believe that a tree is
every bit as conscious and self-aware as we are.

I do not know how separate primitive cultures end up with very similar
creation stories although common human experience and needs might cover
part of it. But it doesn't follow that this unexplained correlation is
because there is a Cosmic Kundalini snake embedded in everyone's
consciousness. For one thing, a lot more than just snake symbolism is
shared by many cultures.

> These serpent creatures are your own DNA strands. Packed very tightly into
> every cell of your body is your DNA, and it is the blueprint that makes
> YOU. And scientists think that there's a lot of junk DNA along the chain
> that doesn't have any purpose. We talked earlier about how some DNA is
> silent. Some DNA in males is silent, and how Kundalini can reawaken that
> DNA again.
>

DNA is only part of what makes you you. Some DNA in ALL human beings
(not just males), known as transposons, is silent. It seems to not
produce anything in human beings that we know of. If we arose by
evolution it is to be expected that quite a bit of DNA would be
left-over junk that has been de-activated over time but that does no
harm anything enough being there to have been eliminated by natural
selection and is thus copied and passed along like all of the rest.
There is no evidence I know of that people with K experience have any of
that other DNA activated although there has been speculation about it.

There is no evidence that some alien race hid themselves in our genetic
structure although it is certainly a clever way to lay low for quite
some time.

> What scientists think is your dormant DNA is actually a multiple
> redundancy system. Encoded into that system is all of your vast potential
> for miracles. Now how does DNA connect with Kundalini?
>

Any evidence?

> Well, in some ways, you can think of the Fire Serpent as the spirit of
> DNA. Now, between the DNA of me, and the DNA of a plant, and the DNA of an
> oyster, there's not a hell of a lot of difference. And it is through our
> DNA, through that piezio-electrical, vibrational exchange going on inside
> of us, there's an aspect of how we become unified with all life on this
> planet. We talked about the Kundalini serpents.

What piezo-electric exchange is this?

>
> Somewhere on this page you'll see an illustration of the caduceus.
> Probably, you've seen it on the back of ambulances. It's the symbol of a
> staff with the serpents coiled around it three and a half times. Then it
> has the wings, and the ball of light on the top. The caduceus is a symbol
> of fully-awakened Kundalini. The serpents are coiled three and a half times
> in the root chakra. And as your Kundalini evolves, they unfold themselves
> three and a half times, crossing over your chakras, until you end up with
> serpents as a rotating field at either side of your head, and the light of
> the crown chakra above, and the wings. Angels don't have wings, but people
> do. As your kundalini unfolds more fully, you may get the strangest
> sensation that your body has grown wings, and in fact, potentially, it
> always had them. People who turn into angels have wings.

The winged cadaceus is the "rod of Mercury". However I have felt like I
had vestigal wings all my life. :-)

>
> So you can think of Kundalini as the intelligence of DNA. It's much
> more than that, but for our purposes, that is one way to visualize it. A as
> the serpents expand up through you, and you grow your wings, this is also
> an aspect of your DNA's secret parts unfolding. Now your DNA is a very
> complex mechanism. If you your DNA from out of your cells, and unfolded it,
> unpacked it from its tightly coiled state as a double helix, exactly like
> the two serpents, it would stretch all the way to the sun and back again.
>

That it is a long sequence does not say it is terribly complex in and
off itself.

> Now, if you could think of something like that, a magnetic tape that
> stretches all the way to the sun and back again, and how much information
> you could put on that tape, then you're getting some limited idea of
> exactly how much information is available through your own DNA. And some of
> that information is gonna unfold as the serpents unfold. Your gonna start
> getting information from your body that may not necessarily be in words,
> but it will be information. Some people who go through Kundalini actually
> experience memories of their grandparents, particularly on the female side.
> Women may get memories of being their great great-grandmother. I've had
> memories of being my grandfather, when he was an officer.
>

But it is not an arbitrary mag tape at all. It is a set of instructions
for producing a set of protein sequences that fold up to produce the
basic components of our cells. We have now sequenced this information,
we now have walked the sequence. We don't know why the produced
proteins fold into the shapes they do (this info is not in the DNA) but
we do know the sequence. And we do have good enough information theory
that we would have noticed encoded general messages (if anyone thought
to do those sorts of tests). So I have my doubts about the above
contention. It shouldn't be that hard to find out though.

That said I did here about a very strange project to store the
collective knowledge of humankind in a way that would survive even a
major nuclear war and would last thousands of years. Among others, I
think Stewart Brant of the Whole Earth Catalog fame was involved in
designing such a system. One serious proposal was to use the transposon
space of some very simple creature that would be likely to survive (I
think cockroaches were proposed) to store the information encoded in its
DNA where it would be faithfully reproduced generation after
generation. Very strange. It made me think twice about all of those
pictures of the Egyptian scarab!

I have intuitively experienced walking through generation after
generation of women back to pre-history. I have looked out of their
eyes and known their cares and the sometimes horrible decisions that it
fell to them to make for the good of their people and of their
children's children's children. I have experienced the Grand-Mother. I
understand why the Mother gave way to the Sky God for a time at an
intuitive level.

> All of this information, the double helix, that makes you the form that
> you are, and to a certain extent dictates the personality that you are.
> That is the Fire Serpent. That is the wisdom. The double helix we're
> unfolding here is a hologram that is reflected in every single cell of your
> body. That's the power of Kundalini inside of you, awake, and dancing.

Perhaps. But it does not quite ring true to me at this time.

- samantha



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