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Recieved: 2000/12/08  10:42  
Subject: [K-list] Re: Voices - Clarification 
From: Dianab9
  
On 2000/12/08  10:42, Dianab9 posted thus to the K-list: 
--- You wrote: 
> Confusion! 
> I am... bloody hell, the title states that I will clarify 
> something, but the beginning of my message says otherwise.  Talk  
> about self-sabotage..... 
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Hi.  I'm new to the list, but thought I would just jump in because the  
voices in the mind is an on-going and recently stronger phenomenon 
for me.  I thought sharing my experiences might be of some value to  
you. 
 
I realized just recently that those thoughts come during moments when  
I am experiencing great calm and peacefulness, and especially during  
times when I am feeling most loving toward life and others.  Then  
there they are, saying rude, shocking, mean or condemning things 
about me or about others, etc.  Very distressing and confusing, and 
terribly undermining.  I allowed them to send me into despair, into  
feelings of great unworthiness.  Such a hypocrite I must be, such a  
sham this path.
 
I agree very much with Susan's assessment, that fighting with them  
only gets them larger and stronger; loving them and working with them  
as parts of myself needing a voice is the way to send them on their  
way.   
   
So, one of my main focuses right now is to simply make the effort to  
be the calm observer of my weird process.  Instead of being upset by  
the thoughts and pushing them hastily and heatedly aside, I began to  
talk with myself about them.  Well, okay, that may be true, but I  
choose now to think differently.  Well, okay, that's one way to think  
about myself, that person, the world, or I used to think that way, 
but it's now not my way.  And I kindly replace the dark or negative  
thought with a loving and generous one.  I acknowledge to myself that  
I may have committed some "bad" deeds but remind myself that I have  
been doing a lot of atoning in one way or another for my misdeeds,  
accepting that in some lifetime somewhere or another i have probably  
committed all the deadly sins.  But not now, and God willing and by 
my vow, not again, so there is no need for guilt or shame, no need to  
feel unworthy of having a peaceful, kindly state of being.  
 
The result has been that I no longer fear my thoughts, no longer 
worry about them.  I am Divinity, Light, Love, no matter how hard I  
(or those "specks") might try to convince me otherwise.  One foot in 
front of the other, no matter what.  
 
I remember reading in several places that as we come closer and 
closer to awareness of our true self the dark energies in the world  
mount a greater and greater offense to prevent us from getting there.  
 Are those dark energies inside us, parts of ourselves; are they  
outside us?  In reality, there is no "outside" or "inside," so, right  
now, it doesn't much matter to me.  I just have to remind myself that  
it is unconditional love that dissolves the darkness.  I've seen dark  
entities hovering around "dark" people--people lost to rage, for  
example.  I know even they leave in an atmosphere of love and  
self-confidence. 
   
I recently heard something that I just loved.  We have at least 
10,000 states of mind according to the Tibetan Buddhists.  One Tibetan  
Buddhist said that his goal was to have the "Old Dog" state of mind:   
You've seen it, heard it, maybe even done it all or at least heard  
about it--in some lifetime or another--and now you don't have to be  
excited by it any longer.  You are calm, self-confident,  
compassionate.  There is a Ground of All Being to which we are  
returning in our Awareness.  No worries.  
 
If you would like to read about a strong experience of "specks"  
affecting someone, read Irina Tweedie's _Daughter of Fire_.  While  
spending time with her Sufi master in India, this older, rather  
upright British woman is plagued by weeks and weeks of visions (with  
her eyes open, as I recall) of creatures and humans committing every  
kind of sexual deviance.  She is shocked to her core when the master  
tells her that it is stuff inside her from some other life that has 
to be calmly acknowledged and accepted, and then let go.
 
Love, 
Diana
 
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