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Recieved: 2000/11/10  17:00  
Subject: [K-list] Enlightenment, Self Realisation and Ego 
From: Anunda
  
On 2000/11/10  17:00, Anunda posted thus to the K-list: 
I have been reading the various thoughts on this subject .. and I  
would like to throw two cents worth into the ring.
 
Enlightenment
 
has been defined as bringing to the light of consciousness, 
that which is down in the subconscious and unconscious mind 
running you without your being aware of its existance.
 
In Western Mysticism,
 
the subconscious/unconscious are seen by most as that area outside 
of the physical body. This is because of the emphasis by religious 
tradition that spirit "lies out side". This is why the "Holy Spirit" 
is seen to descend .. and the rising of the spirit within  
(the serpent)has been made very wrong.
 
In Eastern Mysticism
 
the subconscious/unconscious are seen by most as the area within 
the physical body. This is why "Spirit" in the form of Kundalini 
is seen to ascend.
 
For the Western Genetic Spirituality, Enlightenment is seen as a 
"Frash of Light" or "Illumination"
 
Whereas 
 
For Eastern Genetic Spirituality, Enlightenment is seen as the end  
result of the rising of the Kundalini ..
 
Self Realisation 
 
occurs when the conscious and sub/unconscious merge and the 
"mind chatter" ceases. At this point, the "mind" descends to the  
Heart. For the Western Mystic, this cannot occur until the Physical 
Body (the source of unconscious mind and memories) has been cleared  
of all imputities.
 
This is already done in the Eastern Enlightenment process.
 
It is interesting to note that, in foetal development, the Physical 
Heats starts its journey from a space in the head behind the frontal 
lobe .. moving down into the centre of the chest. 
 
This "Void" is still there in adult life, and is the "Void" that many 
enter in the "Enlightenment" process .. and many fear because of the 
inherent memories awakened.
 
"The Void" is still energetically connected to the Physical Heart 
by the main aorta and an energetic connection.
 
It is the re-uniting of "The Void" with the "Physical Heart" which 
is the end product of Self-Realisation ..
 
But which can only come after there is a full merging of the 
conscious and sub/unconscious minds.
 
Thus .. 
 
"Enlightenment" is the bringing of the unconscious to the light 
of Consciousness .. 
and  
"Self Realisation" is  
  Consciousness becoming aware of itself as Consciousness.
 
Unless this difference between the Eastern and Western mysticism 
is fully understood, there will always be difficulty and conflict 
for those of Western Spiritual Ancestry as they go through the 
Kundalini rising process .. as the fears of this energy are 
released from under layers of being made evil by the Church.
 
Anything less is the realm of Maya.
 
This inversion of perception of Eastern and Western thought is the 
source of so many misunderstandings and conflicts in the debates 
on the nature of Kundalini, Enlightenment and Self Realisation.
 
None of these have anything to do with the mind .. 
 
However ..
 
There is an ego present both before and after this process ..
 
Jesus and Buddha both had ego's.
 
The Ego is the modality of expression of self into the world.
 
Before Self Realisation, it is the ego of personality driven 
by the emotions, seated in the mind, ruled by the unconscious .. 
the personal I which says "I think .. therefore I AM"
 
After Self Realisation, it is the ego of individuality driven 
by the immutable element of Fire residing in the Heart ..  
which is the fuel of the passion of the expression 
"I Am .. therby I am conscious of the thoughts that arise 
from within me .."
 
Without the interface of ego .. and the Kundalini (lifeforce) 
we would be very dead. It's what we allow them to do that matters .. 
and most of us, most of the time, keep them repressed under 
layers of Self Limiting beliefs and learned behaviour
 
Christopher Wynter
 
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