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Recieved: 2000/11/02  22:09  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Einstein and the Point - Another Koan? 
From: Wim Borsboom
  
On 2000/11/02  22:09, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list: 
Dear Magne et al,
 
I am so glad that you picked up on the Heart Chakra. (Primary Lotus and 
Secondary Lotus) 
Our upper body is so energetically complex and can get so complicatedly 
mixed up. On my Aura/Chakra Bio Feedback machine it shows often as the most 
confused area in the aura of my clients. Luckily the machine can show a wide 
variety of frequencies and their distribution as represented by auric 
colours and energies through various body parts. 
In my practice I have slowly moved away from the Sanskrit nomenclature of 
the various chakra energies in the chest area but am linking the blades or 
petals as you describe them with our inner organs. What you say in the 
following quote correlates well with the work I do with my clients.
 
> one of the 6 *habits* which develops one of the 6 
>  *conscious*, *Yang-blades* of the Heart Lotus Anahata. 
> The other 6 feminine *Yin-blades* unfolds during sleep
 
2 lungs 
heart 
pancreas 
liver 
thymus 
esophagus 
bronchial tube
 
There is a correlation between what you're saying and how I deal with my 
clients' emotional complexities. Behind each of these organs and glands are 
specific symbolic meanings, as represented by the variety of our emotional 
connections to the inner and outer world. 
.    Pancreas, left lung, left heart chambers have to do with paternal and 
political, (also sons, male spouse, male ancestors) influences on the auric 
energies. 
.    Liver, right lung, right heart chambers have to do with maternal 
influences and social (also daughters, female spouse, female ancestors) 
influences on the auric energies. 
.   Thymus, esophagus and bronchial tube have to do with one's self 
appreciation in a world that is not to be seen as hostile.
 
> WHEN are we grounded? 
> Answer: When we have both feets completely 
> anchored in absolutely NOTHING.
 
Throughout one of the last stages of the Kundalini process, just before the 
nectar started to flow into the back of my throat, onto the back of my 
tongue from the third ventricle in the centre of my head, related to the 
soma chakra, (starting off with spontaneous kechari mudras) it was almost 
impossible to ground myself. The bottled up energy was at times so great 
that I felt I could spontaneously explode or burn up. Oh, the times I wished 
for that. My wife had to accompany me often to help me withstand some of the 
crazy urges. I had to swim for hours sometimes in the cold salty cold ocean 
waters here, around Vancouver Island, I had to roll in the wet grass 
nakedly, preferably under the night sky, I had to walk in rain and wind as 
much in the nude as socially possible, I had to roll in the snow nakedly, I 
had to swim up wild streams almost like a salmon. When the grounding 
eventually was accomplished the great heat turned into the sweetest 
honey-like nectar or ambrosia, even saliva started to taste like the 
sweetest water from a mountain spring. It was also then that the immortality 
(amrita) issue became clear and unquestionable, also the emptiness / form 
conundrum as expressed by void and plenum clarified itself. 
Thank you Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara!
 
> We should not forget fractal geometry, the *chaos theory* in mathematics. 
In 
> fact, two different exact sciences, physics and mathematics, talks about 
> *uncertainty* (possibility).
 
It is so important for everyone to get a good grounding in fractal geometry, 
chaos theory and complex number algebra. When my son grew up I was so 
enmeshed and involved in the discovery of all that, that it became second - 
no first - nature to him. A fantastic kid now. 
(Roger Penrose's "The Emperor's New Mind: Concerning Computers, Minds, and 
the Laws of Physics" is not a bad introduction at all to these topics, if 
somewhat obtuse initially if all this is new to you.) 
Quote from Martin Gardner about that book: 
>>>A brilliant and controversial scientific argument on the nature of the 
mind, its relation to the laws of physics, and why computers may prove 
unable to duplicate its workings. "It is a book that I believe will become a 
classic...Penrose is one of an increasingly large band of physicists who 
think Einstein was not being stubborn or muddle-headed when he said his 
'little finger' told him that quantum mechanics is incomplete. To support 
this contention, Penrose takes you on a dazzling tour that covers such 
topics as complex numbers, Turing machines, complexity theory, the 
bewildering paradoxes of quantum mechanics, formal systems, Gdel 
undecidability, phrase spaces, Hilbert spaces, black holes, white holes, 
Hawking radiation, entropy, the structure of the brain, and scores of other 
topics at the heart of current speculations"-->>>>
 
Something so neat about the heart centre, consider the three axes x, y, z. 
They meet at 0 or origin. Think of a self repeating, in all directions, 3 
dimensional swastika. 
up / down -->heaven / earth 
left / right --> yin / yang 
forward / backwards -->future / past
 
They meet in the heart, the core chakra 
origin --> now-here 
Now think again of that self repeating, in all directions, 3 dimensional 
swastika but give it a twirl in all directions... 
Hmmmmmm, unstruck vibrations 
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^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^
 
Love and complexity, 
Wim
 
 
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