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Recieved: 2000/10/25 15:34
Subject: [K-list] Uncertainty or ....... Possibility?
From: Magne Aga


On 2000/10/25 15:34, Magne Aga posted thus to the K-list:


-----Original Message-----
From: Wim Borsboom <aurasphereATnospamhome.com>
To: Kundalini-GatewayATnospamegroups.com <Kundalini-GatewayATnospamegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Einstein and the Point - Another Koan?

>Remember in Einstein's theories it is all about relativity, relationship,
>interactivity: that things(?) interfere with, relate to and with each
other.
>Location is a relative intersection between energetic entities in some kind
>of phase state formation, where either space or time are uncertain
according
>to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. (Einstein did not like that.)

Yep. However, *uncertainty* gives negative connotations... I think it should
be renamed to the POSSIBILITY-principle.

Heisenberg spoke about teleportation, in a sense: When an electron moves
from A to B, it's not a particle which moves, but a WAVE - a disturbance.
Imagine a queue of people from New York to LA. You stand as the first person
in the line, giving the person in front of you a slap on his shoulders -
after which you DISAPPEARS ! These person gives the next one a slap on his
shoulders etc. until these *disturbance* reach LA. And - abracadabra, You
are in LA ! No physical object moves, but a wave, a disturbance. An electron
can be BOTH a particle and wave-energy.

However, when it orbits around the center of the atom - WHERE is it at a
given point of time? Is it a particle-less disturbance? Where is the
beginning and the end in a circle? Nowhere !

Robert Oppenheimer wrote:

"If we, for example, asks if the position of the electron remains the same,
we must answer "no"; if we ask if its position changes over time, we must
answer "no"; if we asks if it is at a spesific place, we must answer "no";
if we ask if it moves, we must answer "no".

The author of Isa-Upanishad wrote:

It moves. It doesn't move.
It is far away. It is very close.
It is within everything. It's outside everything.

So, when mystics experience paradoxes, and we all do when entering the spiri
tual world, the result is either solving the paradox and experience
Enlightment - or becoming instantanious insane.

When we listen to rain falling down on the roof or the walls or outside in
nature - isn't it amazing that no drop of rain, takes predictable routes?
This is a beautifull meditation which I perform in the relaxation technique
of Yoga Nidra: Listening, and experience what's happen HERE and NOW - not
for a while ago, not in the future, but.... just here... and now... - a
moment which never repeats itself, unique, resting in itself, the wonderfull
and inconceivable spontanity of the Universe.

Then we can redefine *uncertainty* as possibility, miracles, creativity.

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