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Subject: RE: [K-list] Re: energy/perceptual clarity and sex
From: Harsha
On 2000/10/09 08:15, Harsha posted thus to the K-list:
Dearest Jerrysan Rinpoche. I had been thinking about you since early morning
as we have not heard from you in a few weeks. Thanks for responding to JB
who raises an important issue. On HarshaSatsangh, Both Jan and Amanda
addressed this point quite well in the context of Kundalini Shakti. Perhaps
Wim and Bob can comment on that from their experience if they have not
already done so.
My feeling like Jerry is that the body and the Shakti working in and through
it has its own natural intelligence which has to be respected. Regulation of
sexual conduct or celibacy is one of the factors in Kundalini awakening and
Its rising to the higher centers. There are extensive discussions of that in
the literature. Ultimately, one has to know the makeup and needs of one's
own body and use common sense. The general principle which most can follow
is that if you are left exhausted and drained or weakened after a particular
act or behavior, one needs to be judicious and moderate. This can apply to
all activities including diet, exercise, yoga, pranayama, meditation, sex,
etc. The middle way is different for each person. The middle point allows
facilitates recognition of the witness state. Staying in the middle can help
one feel comfortable, relaxed, aware, and peaceful.
Love to all
Harsha
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Subject: [K-list] Re: energy/perceptual clarity and sex
In a message dated 10/8/00 11:28:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cherianATnospamvsnl.com writes:
<<
Hi Anne, JB and everybody else here,
This issue has been the central theme in my experience too. I've lost all
libido since my K-awakening and it's always on my mind. Its been over 6
years
now and my enforced celibacy shows no sign of letting go - I dont even know
if its a good thing anymore.
Anybody here know how to jumpstart a sleeping libido?Distance healers,
psychics,empaths...anybody, help!
~cherian
>>
Since JB posted his question about k and sex on both the k list and
Harsha's list, l'm responding on both. From the responses, JB, you can see
that you are not alone. Like cherian and others, l have basically been
forced
into celibacy ever since my k awakened over 8 yrs ago, and given the fact
that l have always been strongly attracted to the opposite sex, this has
indeed been one of the most difficult aspects of my k journey.
For me it has included
having weaker or non-orgasms, orgasms at the 3rd eye, much less potency and
an ability to have sex far less often than before. l also feel hung over and
drained afterward, often for several days. l long ago concluded from all of
this that my body was telling me not to have sex, so l have avoided intimate
relations ever since k began. As has already been stated, there's apparently
no way of knowing how long this can last.
l don't want to frighten anyone, but l feel l need to add this.
lt appears that k can cause a lowering of testosterone (and presumably
estrogen) for long periods of time, which can have significant health
consequences. l was shocked to learn 2 yrs ago that l have osteoporosis.
Follow up testing revealed only one possible cause: very low testosterone,
which l'm sure was a result of k. l didn't have a single other risk factor
for the disease. So l would advise anyone in this situation to have sex
hormone levels periodically checked. lf the level is low, you may want to
consider a bone density test just to be safe.
As to whether one is fortunate to have celibacy enforced
upon
them by k, ha ha, well, l can't say that this has been my feeling. Perhaps
if
l was having blissful samadhi experiences l wouldn't miss a relationship and
sex, but since that hasn't been the case l've missed them a great deal. And
l'm not grateful for the osteoporosis. But who are we to complain or argue
with k? l'm still hopeful that it's part of God's plan for me.
jerry
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