To: K-list 
Recieved: 2000/08/27  13:31  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Sex, Celibacy and k problems 
From: Gcwein1111
  
On 2000/08/27  13:31, Gcwein1111 posted thus to the K-list: 
In a message dated 8/25/00 7:05:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
belightATnospamchickmail.com writes:
 
<<  
 I have some questions for you, if you are willing. What was your  
relationship with your folks? Do you call on any guides to ask for direction?  
 
  
 I am going out on a limb here...  I feel that we are fully in control of our  
lives. And that a relationship with K is much like one with a partner. We  
cannot allow a person in our lives to rule us, nor can we with K. And,  
althugh it seems impossible to reverse this pattern, it is very possible. It  
takes balance. Many of us have been raised to be co-dependant in  
relationships, why would it be any different with K?>>                           
 
Hi and thanx for  
your response,                                                      No major  
issues in my relationship with my parents, l'm happy to say --  my mother  
particularly was very loving and giving and is still going at 84. My father  
was a saint in a way -- an incredibly kind and gentle man who practiced  
medicine the old fashioned way, being devoted to his patients and  available  
for house calls on a round the clock basis. My 4 siblings and l didn't see  
him as much as we would've liked but he was a wonderful person, as is my  
mother.                                                                          
So, altho l've had a difficult k trip  
from a physical standpoint l don't attribute any of it to my relationship  
with mom and dad. l do agree with you that issues involving trust are  
important with k and usually one's relationship with one or both of one's  
parents is usually a key factor where trust is concerned. l'm by nature a  
trusting person, perhaps because l had wonderful parents.                        
 
l'm not sure what to say about some of your comments about k  
here. l'm not sure how much we can or should try to control it. l'm also not  
sure how much it can be compared to other aspects of our lives, including  
people we are in relationship with. We just had a discussion about this a  
couple weeks ago in which many of us opined that it was not necessarily good  
to think of k as something we can control. l don't think this is always  
possible or wise, since it represents a higher intelligence. My approach has  
generally been to try my best to surrender to k and to trust it to do as it  
(and/or God) wills.                                                              
 
 << 
 I have been in tuned with guides long before I understood what Kundalini  
was. I asked them for help and assistance and they always respond. Now with a  
full awareness of K, I look to it as I would a lover, and if I feel  
overwhelmed or want to calm it... I ask for help. I say "no". And, I am  
heard... Maybe the K awareness on my part, is the child of my love with my  
guides? And you know how young children can be.... 
  
 I see brittle bones as losing self trust or strength... Our first source of  
calcium comes from our mothers milk. I know for me, K is rquesting I heal my  
feelings about my folks... embracing them and letting them go. Also remember  
you are not your body, but you are in relationship to it... so working with  
K, is like balancing a 3 way relationship. Body, mind and spirit... humm... I  
see where they got that trinity idea :) 
  
 Maybe while in the washing of Kundalini, that we become he mountain molded  
and reshaped year after year by the forcful and flowing waters?                  
 
  >>                                                                             
 
l can't say that l know why l got osteoporosis as a result of k, other  
than the fact that l'm sure it was a result of k lowering my testosterone for  
years. K is known to play havoc with the hormones in some cases and lowered  
testosterone is known to cause osteoporosis -- that's what it's done with me,  
and l see the osteoporosis as more of a secondary result than a primary one.  
l have to confess that this makes more sense to me as an explanation than one  
invoking the symbolism of brittle bones, ha ha, but l admire your creativity.  
:))  Thanx for your feedback and best wishes.                                    
 
 
love,                                                                            
jerry
 
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