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Recieved: 2000/07/11 14:27
Subject: RE: [K-list] The Botttom Line - and The Path
From: Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)
On 2000/07/11 14:27, Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) posted thus to the K-list:
Hi Jerry! What a great post.
Jerry, you are a totally fantastic writer and an incredibly wise and a
humorous person and a highly evolved being (and as you know I am not easily
impressed).
Of course, you will outwardly deny this due to your humility, which is icing
on the cake of your greatness.
I just want to remind you again Jerry that before we were born we made an
agreement that I would be your book agent. My cut of the deal as you may
recall was 40%. If your memory is hazy, just take my word for it. Angelique
and El will back me up on this I am sure. Send me the first draft of the
manuscript when you are ready.
Thank and love
Harsha
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Subject: Re: [K-list] The Botttom Line - and The Path
snip..........
Perhaps one thing l was
destined to learn from k is what to do when all effort is futile. Every
place
l turned for help ended up being a blind alley. No teacher or teaching could
help, no doctor or healer could help, no medicine or herb could help --
there
was no technique that k would even let me use. l had been pretty successful
at everything l'd done previous to k, but now there was nothing l or anyone
else could do. So what do you do when you're desperate to exert effort --
any
kind of effort -- but there is no effort that can be put to any useful
purpose? When any form of effort only makes matters worse? All l could do
was try to get thru each day and maintain as much faith and hope as l could.
lt's not very different today.
As someone who still
desperately wants to believe in upper chakra perspectives, there's one more
thing that concerns me. What does it mean when the upper chakra views of
various mystics contradict each other? There's a story -- don't know if it's
true or not --- a renowned western mystic died suddenly at an
interdenominational spiritual retreat. Two days later a Tibetan lama
approached his widow and said,"l've seen your husband. He didn't grasp
dharmakaya at the first opportunity, but he's making his way thru the bardo
and is doing fine." An hour later a Catholic monk approached her and said,
"l've seen your husband. He's with the Lord Jesus and is being escorted up
to
heaven." An hour later a Hindu approached her and said, "l've seen your
husband. He's with Krishna and the gopis....."
l
used to do several retreats at Omega lnstitute every summer, often back to
back. One year l did a Tibetan retreat and had several conversations with a
tulku about reincarnation, a subject in which he was quite insightful. ln
the
next retreat my own sufi teacher, whom l respected greatly, conveyed the
teachings of the saint Hazrat lnayat Kahn which explicitly teach a contrary
view. Murshid's book on the subject is quite definitive on the subject, in
fact. lt's a pretty interesting cosmology that l'd be glad to share some
other time--one that's eerily similar to reincarnation but definitely
different.
l'm also reminded of the conflicts when l think of the visitations
associated
with Lourdes, Fatima and several others in the Catholic faith. l'm not
Catholic, but these have appeared very genuine to me. The Virgin Mary, or
whoever it is, never fails to talk about praying for sinners, etc.,
certainly
not kosher talk from an upper chakra nondualist perspective, right??
So ... l'm with Llewellyn in wanting to see a unified field theory of spirituality. lt would sure help a pathetic lower chakra hacker like me and would boost my confidence in upper chakra perspectives :))
jerry
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