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Recieved: 2000/07/08  05:33  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Duality's a bitch (was: Mudras) 
From: Mrkstavish
  
On 2000/07/08  05:33, Mrkstavish posted thus to the K-list: 
In a message dated 7/8/00 5:02:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MHortlingATnospamaol.com  
writes:
 
> If one really wanted to stress the differences between the Western &  
Eastern  
>  teachings, I'd say that the Western traditions have focussed more on the  
>  developement and the control of the mind and approached the inner reality  
>  from a vantage point more focussed on  personal power and ritual, whereas  
>  spiritual approaches incorporating the Shakti/Goddess paradigm groove   
more  
>  on surrender and  abandon to the greater power. 
> 
 
This is a nice idea, but doesn't reflect  a clear understanding of the  
practices.  The description you've given of "Western" teachings being more  
about control would be perfect descriptions of Indian Tantra (or even Raja  
yoga), as well as Tibetan practices (the Arising and Perfecting Yogas) of  
which the West seems most familiar.  The manipulation of the chakra symbols  
in Laya (ie. kundalini) Yoga requires an intense amount personal mental  
energy and control.  The surrender comes at a much later date.    These  
"Eastern" systems are all very heavily ritualistic, hence the creation of the  
mandala, of which it is said that the physical world must be seen as a  
projection of this ritual diagram (mandala) so that the entire manifest  
universe is perceived as an extension of the practitioner.  Hardly an  
interior practice focused on surrender.  
 
Zen techniques of course would be an exception.
 
Sincerely,
 
Mark Stavish 
The Wyoming Valley Society for Esoteric Studies 
http://hometown.aol.com/esoteric777/myhomepage/index.html 
http://www.hermetic.com/stavish/ 
"Oser, Vouloir, Se Taire. - Dare, Will, Keep Silent"
 
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