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Recieved: 2000/07/05 10:07
Subject: Re: [K-list] Rocking the boat
From: Robert Weil


On 2000/07/05 10:07, Robert Weil posted thus to the K-list:

At 10:28 AM 6/30/00 +0100, you wrote:
>> >Hi Rob,

lobster snip>> Is creating "what is required" an ego requirement?
>> Are we sure it isn't? :-)
>
>I rarely answer questions because I do not have the answer.
>However in this case I would say 'yes'. :-)
>Ego can be destructive and counter productive (to our and others well being)
>or it can enhance and empower.
>I get a sense that many people here are presently intrigued by the
>(symbolic) energy of Shiva (the destroyer). The consequences of working with
>such energies are - let us say 'dramatic'.
>In most cases it is much safer, kinder (to oneself) to bring out and enhance
>our positive attributes - THEN we can look on the demonic and Love it.
>I guess you knew that . . .

Well, actually I think the demonic arrived early on my doorstep, but it
showed me something of the nature of choice and illusion...

Re: Shiva... That one I'll contemplate at my leisure... thanks... :-)
>
>
>> All I know is if/when I create some music, I may start with an aim, but it
>> makes itself sometimes, and afterwards "I" don't know what happened. But
>> then the music exists, and it has effects on me and others, and my ego
>> tries to take full responsibility for it (foolish boy).
>
>The analogy of music is interesting one much used in Sufism.

Do they talk much of building reality through sound?

>For me words themself have this intuitive, free form that is more important
>in effect rather than literal meaning.
>It is this flexibility of language that allows us to
>move from real
>to paradox
>to impossible
>to EMOTION
>and even the s p a c e
>in between word that people equate with a symbol for spirit.
>Not in any order or disorder but rather where the flow takes us . . .

It amazes me in how many ways ppl here write, and how beautifully these
ways work. Together, separately, space to be...

Some ppl I have known claim that words are the mask of the real, and
interfere with direct perception. I prefer to see that in a more creative
way. I am learning the art gradually.

>
>I have to go soon. I am glad to have been here for a short while.
>Be nice to everyone
>Your friends will Love you
>and your enemies - I am sure you have none - will be enfuriated . . .
>and if you can't be nice
>then why not learn (free classes available everywhere . . . )

Happy trails, and give Scotland a big hello for me. I go up there in about
a month on business, and hope to spend a couple of days by Loch Lomond...
never seen so many shades and hues of green in one place (including
Vancouver Island ;-)

Rob
>
>Be Well
>Rare Lobster

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