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Subject: [K-list] Black Hole Effect, Did Lazarus Laze Us Into Rememberin 
From: dan winter
  
On 2000/06/17  06:26, dan winter posted thus to the K-list: 
The Black Hole Effect .... Feedback for Star Waves
 
Did Lazarus Laze Us Into Remembering our Embedding - Redeemed from 
the Angle of Death?
 
(in their widening gyre) ..."Lurching toward Bethlehem to be Born"..
 
 
PHI Harmonics, Charge Compressing, and Black Holes... Preparing to 
Die Non-Destructively?
 
ode to "The Lazarus Effect" by Frank Herbert, in which teaching one to 
string memory thru the death wormhole, 
primes the pump for the whole genepool to 'conquer' (see thru the worm 
of?) death. "Laze-Are-Us". The DNA 
light upon implosion 'Lazes' with the coherence to enter and return from 
the Black Hole thru lightspeed into time - 
immortalizing memory - physics for 'redemption'. (This note closely 
follows the original: Knowing where to turn 
(the symmetry) in the BARDO (death dream) ELIMINATES ALL BIOLOGICAL NEED 
TO DIE. at 
http://www.danwinter.com/eternal )
 
from Dan Winter 6/17/2000, url (live links and animation): 
http://www.danwinter.com/blackholeeffect , related links: 
http://www.danwinter.com/sitemap.html
 
 
Einstein showed gravity to be indistinguishable from acceleration.
 
Did his contention that - infinite compression was the key to how black 
holes bend time.. 
imply further that gravity AND mass itself were ultimately 
indistinguishable from charge 
compression...? (only way spin adds stored inertia).
 
Fractal data compression has shown phi recursion perfect branching to be 
the key to making wave 
/ charge / info compression infinitely efficient...
 
The key simple principle to the wave mechanics of gravity may be self 
evident: The self-similar / 
self embedding...or becoming fractally arranged, geometry which ENABLES 
non-destructive 
compression.
 
This could be proved using FFT and second order Frequency Signature to 
show harmonic intervals at PHI ratios, 
where wave systems microgravity increased in proportion. Examples would 
be Randy Masters work in the PHI 
harmonics in Hydrogen's Balmer series.. Also work as by chemist Moon, 
Univ of Chicago showing sub atomic 
(nuclear) symmetries were SELF SIMILAR to electron shell symmetries. 
Also, an astrophysics phd candidate 
friend has tentatively agreed to add second order fft to his infrared 
astronomic spectroscopy to prove the gravity 
effect of black holes?!! (looking for wavelength multiples of PHI... in 
absorbtion spectra.. where the Black Hole 
eats the spin only where it is recursion's ratio!) . Discussion at 
http://www.danwinter.com/predictions.
 
However, the physics only assumes the background for this article whose 
subject is:
 
CREATING the (audio or optic) wave pattern of PHI implosion, to heal / 
embed , mechanically - 
VERSUS doing the psychological "integrating" (embedding?) WORK required 
to achieve 
"oneness". Is a mechanical method enough? (It wasn't enough for Jody 
Foster in "Contact" to enter 
the dodeca worm -animated below-, she had to process/integrate the lucid 
dream magnetic image 
produced.)
 
(Borg favorite quote: "But as for living, we'll let our machines do that 
for us!" )
 
 
IS PREPARING TO DIE a BLACK HOLE EFFECT...?
 
Animation for this is inspired from movie "CONTACT" -To enter the 
compression worm between worlds, step 
one: ASSUME THE POSITION (rearrange your internal elements to be scale 
invariant / compressible / fractal / 
knit by PHI / )
 
 
(story & full size animation at http://www.danwinter.com/philotactics 
)The movie "Contact"'s vehicle is squirted 
into the wormhole / able to return because it survives the great PHI 
SQUEEZE... Children's fairy tale version of 
this at Couldn't Get a Better Squeeze.. . Successful squeezing 
(compression) makes "Contact" thru the worming...
 
In the reprint here at bottom, Hawk kindly responds to Gail (biosonic at 
egroups.com) discussing a very common 
enthusiasm to regard Phi audio harmonics as a kind of solvent to melt 
separateness. (Thank you Hawk for taking 
the time, to respond to Gail...)
 
I forwarded your note to her as well...
 
Some ideas are indeed almost as romantic as romance. 
Consider profoundly the relationship between the urge to make a new 
machine.... "If Phi Harmonics embed/heal, 
let's make the sound chamber which embeds perfectly" 
(phi harmonic cascades etc.. implosion sounds...) as playable at 
http://www.danwinter.com/antakarana and original 
extensive dialog at 
http://www.danwinter.com/implosionhazards/implosion.html ( The Implosion 
Phenomenon: 
Psychological Import of Phi Harmonic Music Phi Scalar Technology- & 
MonoAtomic Gold..)
 
I indeed think this is a variant for the temple builder's urge in modern 
times like Van Tassel building the 
Integratron, and the Montauk Time Travel engineers building the 
(Do?)Deca-Delta antennae. In a way, this 
machine only solution to embedding in the universe, may be merely an 
extension of the urge to passively EAT THE 
SILVER BULLET - as in the Dragon Queen lament:- "Just feed me gold 
powder so I can live forever, but please 
don't make me feel'..
 
INSTEAD OF (rather than as an enzyme to)
 
DOING THE PSYCHOLOGICAL WORK required to enter into the perfect 
grail embedded de-vine (perfect branching ness) distributable 
(shareable) awareness (wave). This is DE-VINE 
(well branched) compassion.
 
Body 'armoring' is the resistance to touch caused by waves failing to 
embed - memories unshared / pain stored 
instead of felt.
 
We may need to add space on our "Don't postpone BLISS" bumper-sticker, 
for "Don't postpone PAIN"! (Austism 
may be an extreme example of the phase delay caused by postponed 
pain..)..
 
We discuss how this psychological activity of taking all emotional 
memories stored in piezoelectric muscle and 
gene, 
dump out the filing cabinet 
and 
SORT FOR THE SHAREABLE..
 
as exactly the process of properly preparing to DIE.
 
When electrically complete (by spin density growth) 
(more than ironically) this then ELIMINATES ALL BIOLOGICAL NEED TO DIE. 
at 
http://www.danwinter.com/eternal
 
Not that we should not build the machine, but rather that if we fail to 
integrate the PURE PRINCIPLE INSIDE 
OUT, enabling us to do the symmetry in the heart for ourselves, we will 
have become merely Borgs. This is the 
usefulness of the Heart Biofeedback to show when we have found the turns 
for ourselves.. 
(http://www.danwinter.com/heartlink/marysol.html , 
http://www.danwinter.com/embedability )
 
The automatons whose "Privelege to be assimilated", resulted from using 
machines to eliminate separateness (create 
hive telepathy) - ending the agony of separateness with it's resultant 
birth of NEW COMPASSION (inside out ness, 
as an innerskill).
 
The mystery is HOW the heart arranges it's key bliss / compassion 
moments to correspond exactly to those where 
the EKG harmonics space themselves at multiples of PHI . WHY IS 
COMPASSION IDENTICAL WITH 
EMBEDDING... WHY IS PERFECT SPACE SHARING THE SAME AS PERFECT (& 
fractal) COMPRESSION.
 
It has been speculated usefully that the peak (our E.I. Emotional Index) 
which confirms this on the second order 
FFT (frequency signature), called the "septrum", is mathematically 
linked to Heart Rate. And yet why would the 
heart rate (so replicably) choose to click in exactly where the PHI 
harmonic can be sustained, and so consistently 
associated with EMOTIONAL MOMENTS FEELING VERY SHAREABLE / MEMBRANE 
CROSSING (as 
opposed to MEMBRANE MAKING / log 2 octave harmonics).
 
This then becomes a mathematical mechanism to identify the moment at 
which a membranes wave harmonics 
eliminate CANCER (http://www.danwinter.com/cancer )
 
I suggest this math of embedding ADDS to the romance of romance (we have 
seen exquisite PHI 
harmonics maintained in EKG perfect phase lock between TANTRA partners), 
rather than collapsing it's 
intentionality - (Phenomenolgy of Perception, by Ponty)
 
Embedding has a role for Playboy magazine. It makes clear what the rules 
are for NON DESTRUCTIVE touching!
 
It is a wave mechanic, which defines a psycho-mechanic.
 
Only to the extent to which 2 sets of DNA pony tails are 
non-destructively braid nestable/compressible, can they 
EMBED without a tangle.
 
Psychologically this may correspond to the BELL THEOREM question:
 
In noting that two light beams emerging from perfect fusion (mutually 
phase agreeable laser annihilation - see SEX 
/ fusion / perfect phase conjugation as CONJUGAL relations : 
http://www.danwinter.com/phaseconjugation - 
AMENTI - the phase conjugate mirror... / we also make the case the 
visual fusion as key to fusion physics in 
general is CALLED the PHI Phenomenon, for good reason at 
http://www.danwinter.com/fusion )
 
'Bell's Theorem' says that not only do the then emergant light beams 
continue to share spin information AT 
FASTER THAN LIGHT VELOCITIES, essentially into inPHIknity...
 
but also extends this to mean, as they said..
 
ONCE YOU GET INTO THIS BATH WATER... (perfect fusion)..
 
YOU NEVER REALLY GET OUT AGAIN.
 
So in choosing sex partners, you make the reasonable assumption that 
genetic, psychic, karmic, braid bonds will 
forever entangle or embed you 'for better or for worse..' (as they say 
in conjugal celebrations..)
 
-
 
So now how do we apply this knowledge to the psychology of WHAT PREPARES 
YOU TO EMBED WITH THE 
ALL-NESS centroid of the waves?
 
We can feel compassion for those who choose to call this 'Genetic Fusion 
Phenomenon" - GOD, usually to avoid 
having to deal with the rigorous wave physics of what makes 
communion/fusion hygiene sustainable (in genes and 
glands and land/geomantics). Imagine the childishness of naming the 
PRINCIPLE of crystallization, which allows 
WAVES TO SHARE space CHRYSTallizing in phase on surface, the "Christ" 
principle. And thinking that is a 
PERSONALITY instead of a pure principle. (of course encouraging 
personality worship instead of rule by pure 
principle/law is a classic way governments and priests create slave 
states).
 
But then again, (and this is the PAPAL and not the EDITORIAL 'WE" 
speaking), there is something INFALLIBLE 
about the PURE PRINCIPLES of wave mechanics called NATURAL 
LAW...(http://www.danwinter.com/naturallaw ). Instead of FEARING and 
GUILT around WOMEN and SEX and 
BLISS, the natural law would be that BLISS itself is the only way to 
REDEEMING genes! (Sorry to break the news 
to our retrained Nazi Gas salesman Pope, but this probably means that 
celibacy without tantric or kundalini bliss, is 
merely a spin path to pederasty, cancer, and repression.. I wonder if 
health insurance for priests gets pricey by 
statistic?).
 
But we digress....
 
The romantic issue here is simply, CAN WE APPLY PHI HARMONICS to the 
PSYCHE of getting EMBEDABLE 
/ SHAREABLE.
 
When we played the http://www.danwinter.com/antakarana implosion sound 
at our community... senstives 
repeatedly reported an uncomfortable 'wrinkle in time'. We suspect the 
men trapped halfway thru the hull in 
"Philadelphia Experiment" learned a similar lesson, ALSO by PHI 
implosion. They fell into a BLACK HOLE 
unprepared. One does not hasten to death, without preparation. The 
psyche will notice a great tingle at the moment 
of fusion with what is shareable. This is religious terms is called 
"forgiveness". In electrical terms in muscle and 
gene, this corresponds to the tingle of fractally attractive waves doing 
CHARGE COMPRESSION.
 
(Transducers to capacitive hi gain amping are so cheap...here is where 
we picked up hearts embedding TREES.. 
http://www.danwinter.com/trees - Lo wattage input requirements to send 
charge coupling bio-signals hundreds of 
miles means trees can tell their whole genepool hundreds of miles away 
which bugs to prepare antibodies for.)
 
PHI harmonic EKG emPOWERs bliss - enabling non-destructive current / 
info density.
 
So now, we could look up FORGIVENESS in the psychological literature 
(that would produce some hits on 
altavista.com ) except for once, we might add some measureable rigor to 
the conversation!
 
2nd order fft test for onset PHI harmonic spacing, is the biofeedback to 
teach more than just the moment of 
emerging out of chaos into self-organization / self-reference / 
self-awareness.. (Prechter / Elliott wave as PHI 
phenomenon predicting the onset of predictability...)
 
This (like exactly the vortex spiral strip letters of the TRUE Hiburu / 
Enochian alphabets), is shadowMAP to how 
to enter BLACK HOLES and survive! (Movie: "Stargate")
 
A life (el-eye-phi) or death ... difference of spin stored between what 
"matters" and what DOESN'T "matter". In 
terms of spin survival these are the only 2 kinds of matter - 
sustainable/embedable.... or NOT! ).
 
lo phi
 
dan winter
 
--
 
Here is the text of Hawk's response and Gail's note: Subject: Re: 
[biosonic] [Fwd: Message from Gail in Silicon 
Valley] Date:Fri, 16 Jun 2000 
From: Hawk <hawkellyATnospamsenet.com.au> Reply-To: biosonicATnospameGroups.com
 
Greetings Biosonics, Vibratherapy and Dan Winter,
 
Dan, 
Your asked : "Embedding / phi cascades serve those better who have the 
psychological preparation? 
Implosion is probably not a panacea... 
Any suggestions?"
 
On the web page http://www.danwinter.com/harmonic 
I gave a demonstration of something like this??
 
In Gails words : "The entrainment of other biological systems can and 
does take place independent of touch because of the electrical signal 
generated by the gene structure, which emits a pulsed signal."
 
Hawk : Interesting.... We here play with DC Pulsed frequencies to split 
the water molecule. 
I do not recommend these same frequencies on the human body though. They 
might cause dissociation of the DNA 
at high amplitudes. MIGHT. Refer - Stan Meyer "Water Fuel Cell".
 
Gail Continues : "To phase lock into another organism via compassion, 
the heart will send out a fiber signal braided, as you say, with nested 
fibonacci strings or sub-seven alpha 
particles, whatever terminology is used to describe the 
vibrational-carrying element of consciousness, and fill in the missing 
tinkertoys in the other person's field."
 
Hawk : Using Sound projected from a persons own voice I think would the 
qualities mentioned in this last paragraph from Gail.
 
. Gail continues : "Once there is a shared resonance, there is 
entrainment. 
The source and sink are a continuous loop and are phase-locked. Now 
here's 
the question:"
 
Hawk : Yes singing together. Phase locking in harmonious singing. 
<gulp ,,,,big gulp,,,, here comes the BIG QUESTION >
 
Gail asks : 
"If it can be postulated that discordant harmonics are deliberately 
inbduced via flouride, retinal engagement and other ultra-engineered 
experiential product, and if it can be claimed that such discordance 
created precipitate such as heart disease, cancer and immune fatiguing 
is caused in this way, is it not the case that fibonacci sound, 
entrained by 
someone consciously emanating a certain bandwidth of nested vectors as 
sound tinkertoys, either from their own DNA or from a Rife, can provide 
the antidote for the discordance by entraining the recipient body's 
cells 
into a fibonacci patterning of coherence?"
 
Hawk: Well all of you and myself included have fibonacci patterning 
within our bodies. We are sort of fibonaccii students :o))) lol Dan 
Winter points 
this out numerous times in his excellent leading edge www.danwinter.com 
site. Robert Lawlor in his sacred Geometry series of books also points 
this out.
 
Its unfortunate that we are constantly bombarded by these discordant 
things 
emanating from flouride, retinal engagement and other ultra-engineered 
experiential product, and as such a small antidote can in my view 
correct 
this imbalance temporarily but without regular boosts the discordant 
products close in and take control again. 
It would perhaps be effective if phi embedded scales or something phi 
related was used in modern commercial music. Or if a tape of phi scale 
sounds specifically targeted to a individuals frequency signature could 
be 
made and played periodically to that person to maintain harmonious 
stasis.
 
I use "Harmonic throat" singing or better described by me as Harmonic 
Intoning. This is a easy voice technique that emphasizes your own unique
 
Harmonic Signature. 
I took this up because I didn't have the finances for any external sound
 
equipment but now with a new computer and sound card and thanks to 
Marysols Biosonics program <demo version only> I have some way to 
further 
research and improve this voice technique that I use for healing. 
I also think that a external device can duplicate what is achieved in 
healing thru the voice , but of course some further research by you and 
me 
has to be done to bring us closer to this realization. 
I'd like to make appropriate sound compositions in phi scale tune or 
other 
scale tunings that are in correct harmonious relationship with each 
individual person. 
Who knows in the future this may be the way of music. It certainly would
 
avoid the copyright copying problems as each piece of music although 
sounding similar will be targeted for each individual person. IE the non
 
pirate's get the real benefit of what they pay for.
 
So Dan Asked :"Embedding / phi cascades serve those better who have 
(done) the psychological preparation?
 
Implosion is probably not a panacea... 
Any suggestions?"
 
Hawk : I think the psychological preparation has to be achieved thru 
mental conditioning via visualization and 
rehearsal of sound training 
projection and healing visualizations that fit in well with what Dan 
Winter touches upon. Also a genuine heart 
intention has to be felt and worked with to .
 
Harmonic Hawk
 
..ps.I forgot to reply to this little bit from Gail at the end of their 
post. 
Gail wrote : 
"Is this not scalar healing? If it is, how is it true that one 
individual 
can perform it on one other individual through phase locking? Is it the 
case that the entrainer uses the morphogenic grid as a second source to 
create the triangulation necessary for the action at a distance phase 
conjugate mirror coupling in the person to be healed with compassion? 
Please lend your thoughts. Also, where is your lab? 
Best, Gail Grant"
 
Hawk :<Hawk lends to the blend> I thought Scalar forces were related to 
Zero Point sort of. Oh yes I can see the relationship in head harmonics 
that around the central brain stem form different patterns as you 
harmonically Intone. There would be zero points formed but they would be
 
moving through the head and body in various patterns. Like the Eidophone
 
Voice figures. <<<----- Vibratherapy related i think. 
To Phase lock requires the persons permission. Better still there 
participation. In absence healing we use the person who knows the 
individual that we are sending healing to the best. They <the person who
 
knows them best> begin the selective sounds that we employ on that 
individual person usually after a soundhealing discussion related to 
that 
persons medical condition. <Colour, pitch, amplitude, tone, geometrics, 
physiology etal are discussed.> 
Yes morphogenic science is used at a guess :o) :o) sympathy for another.
 
Second source?? Oh yeah the US field :o) The resonant ring of 
morphogenetic field that webs us together.
 
WHERE IS MY LAB!?!?! Oh yeah I Swallowed it :o) <burp!!> LoL
 
Harmonic Hawk
 
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