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Recieved: 2000/06/11 07:57
Subject: Re: [K-list] the Divine Beloved (was: stifled )
From: CJ
On 2000/06/11 07:57, CJ posted thus to the K-list:
Hi percyval, list,
----- Original Message -----
From: percyval <percyvalATnospamrcn.com>
> in the thread "stifled", i think there has been some misunderstanding
about
> what is meant by the "Divine Beloved" within us... it is not an
"imaginary"
> lover that some people have... it is what Jungian psychology calls the
Anima
> and Animus... everyone (or perhaps almost everyone) has one as part of
their
> unconscious... it is normally a part of oneself within the unconscious
that
> is of opposite gender of the body (but not always)...
>
I may have inadvertently created that misunderstanding...sorry for the
confusion, folks.
I went to sleep one night telling myself I wanted to meet my 'inner self',
and he showed up in my dream - I didn't get a look at his face, but was
incredibly happy about him letting me get that glimpse of him walking out of
his shack. I told a friend I'd seen my inner guide and said "It's a
*dude*!" :) Didn't know the Jungian psychology - why didn't they teach me
that in my psyc classes?
> it normally expresses itself as a deep desire for completion that we seek
in
> our ideal mate that we hope to find and/or fantasize about... and it
colors
> our perceptions in many of our actual relationships by causing us to
project
> this part of ourself on another person... it prevents us from seeing
another
> for the person who they truly are instead of as an extension of our own
> needs...
Yes, yes, yes...my 1st marriage was a disaster, partly because of all the
*expectations* I projected on to that guy. It was about 5 years into it
when I had that initial dream. I felt so much more 'complete', as you put
it, after becoming aware of him. Was better able to see what mistakes had
been made and how to get through them. The marriage had been over for
awhile, I just didn't understand that, and it took another couple of years
to finally be done with it.
> in a Divine Marriage with our own Anima or Animus, we merge the maleness
and
> femaleness within ourself... as Melissa Toast has pointed out, this
creates
> a greater conscious sense of wholeness.. we become less needy whether we
are
> in a relationship or not in one... developing a relationship with the
Divine
> Beloved is a technique for merging these parts of ourself... it is not
> making up a fantasy lover to satisfy our needs...
>
Yea - but I thought that idea might help val open up to him somehow. My
inner guy has an essence that I recognize, even outside of me - can feel his
hugs sometimes. Also, there have been times when men I've never seen before
(but always nice on the eyes) show up in my dreams to take me on dates of
dancing, or to satisfy me. I don't really want to use the term needs,
because most of this occured after I had abstained from physical 'release'
of energy for quite a long time - those needs had developed other outlets by
then. Now I'm remarried and patiently waiting for MAS' tantra course to
come out... :), so we can do more exploring in that area. My Divine Beloved
is always here, helping me to keep the fear and expectations out of this
marriage.
> Valerie, i wish i knew how to teach you to begin on this inner quest... i
do
> not... but at this point, all i can hope to do is to clarify what we are
> speaking about...
>
> lovingly,
>
> Percyval
>
You are very kind, aren't you?
Peace,
carla
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