To: K-list 
Recieved: 2000/06/07  18:29  
Subject: Re: [K-list] flaming? 
From: CJ
  
On 2000/06/07  18:29, CJ posted thus to the K-list: 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: meeradji <meeradjiATnospamhome.com> 
To: Kundalini-Gateway <Kundalini-GatewayATnospamegroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 8:15 PM 
Subject: [K-list] flaming?
 
> i don't experience it that way, Carla. What you experience as "inciting 
flame wars" i experience as clearing fires and thunderstorms. I cannot stand 
sunshine and blue sky all day every day. It's not "true". And i really hope, 
this  will NOT pass.
 
I'm not looking for sunshine and blue sky, nor did I represent that; I think 
it was referred to as 'truth and beauty'.  The threads about feelings and 
imagination vs. visualization were examples of this, imho.  The others have 
been very direct and emotional, I agree, but to what end?  Did you offer the 
oppression of women to Goddess?  It came up as an issue for you, and you 
gave it to Kent instead, from what I could see.
 
> I think, THAT EXACTLY is the "true Spirt", honest, direct, emotional, 
subjective, 
> wild, uncensored. 
> I know, this atmosphere of pure power can be threatening and nobody of us 
knows what he or she will get back when posting something. And yes, it's a 
risk and yes, it might be unfair on a person or hard .
 
And that might be all it is:  threatening, unfair and hard.  If Kent heard 
what you were saying, good - it was good info and could've helped - but from 
here, I don't see that it did.
 
>out there, especially spiritual ones where everybody is just nice and 
hugging and loving >each other all day long,but  when i read the energy 
behind the words and i get a total >different picture most of the time i 
feel betrayed and it's a waste of time for me to  be >on those lists.
 
That's not me.
 
> Kundalini process is a very intense, very subjective, very emotional 
process and a lot >of it is not nice and easy at all. I feel a Kundalini 
list should reflect this process..... and >this list does in my eyes. 
Everybody being in this process knows from own >experiecens how fierce the 
pain, how deep the sorror, how unbearable the longing, >how hot the fire and 
how glorious the love can be. Nothing of it is shallow, nothing is 
>finished.
 
I understand what you're saying, including feeling those roller coaster 
feelings, except the last part.  Lots of things that come up for me to 
resolve *are* shallow, ego based fear reflections.
 
> PLEASE don't try censoring yourself in order to become nice and boring 
people!!!!!!!!
 
I'm not censoring myself - but I do try to ask myself "What's your motive?" 
(My motive here should read  "Why don't you address my "heat" issue instead 
of his soulmate thang???" 
ROTFLMAO!!!!!  :)
 
> much love 
> mia
 
Lots of love, 
carla
 
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