To: K-list 
Recieved: 2000/06/04  04:25  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Secret names and "discrimination" 
From: Paul Perner
  
On 2000/06/04  04:25, Paul Perner posted thus to the K-list: 
 
Ann S. Larson wrote: (in response to Mark)
 
> >Discrimination is the first key on the Path. 
> 
> no kidding? 
> are you sure? 
> whos' path? all paths? 
> which manual? who wrote it 
> where can I get one too? 
> poop!!!! 
> now I gotta start all over again. 
> 
>
 
Dear Ann and List,
 
 I think what Mark meant was simply discrimination in general in any path we 
may choose. Basically, like, the sun feels this way and the moon feels 
another way. Being able to tell the difference as to what things mean (like 
magical names) helps us make better decisions. He didn't mean to talk down 
to you. He's a Cabalist/alchemy kind of guy and that's just the way they 
express themselves.
 
 When I first came to the alternative spiritual community two years ago (I'm 
still a new bee in this hive), I was overwhelmed by all the different 
traditions, philosophies etc.. Mind you, it was only a couple months after 
the cork popped off my K bottle and walking into a metaphysical 
bookstore/meeting place where actual energy work was being done was like 
having everything jump out at and around me. I went to a lot of classes, 
asked a lot of questions and attended as many open circles and festivals as 
I could. I'm glad I did because it helped me build a framework of personal 
discrimination, or, educated discernment, if you will.
 
 What are some of the things I learned? (Take this with a grain of salt as I 
am, and will ever be, a student).
 
 Be careful in widdershins circles that aren't personally guided when in an 
early post awakening state. Counter clockwise work was done at one of the 
first gatherings I attended and my mind went back to the time of my 
"psychospiritual emergency." I started going through some heavy changes in 
front of about a hundred people and it was very embarrassing. Changes are 
good, but that one was not on the program of scheduled events. I can laugh 
about it now, but at the time it was very difficult and had social 
repercussions.
 
 If you're a white American, approach Indigenous magic with the utmost 
respect. It's very powerful. I'm sure everyone on this list has heard this a 
million times, but where I live people who know the local history take this 
very seriously. Here (LA) we've built an artificial metropolis literally 
over the bones of the original people. Poltergeist activity is common in 
these areas. And of course, if we do certain chants in those places we can 
get our spiritual asses kicked (Jim Morrison had first hand experience with 
this). A karmic bomb perhaps. Maybe it's time to pay the rent to Gia. Not 
only ecologically, but spiritually. 
 Could the Chumash "curse" that was put on this part of California when one 
of the last tribal families was driven off actually be a love bomb like the 
one Mystess hinted at? Not something to be toyed with, but put into motion 
for a reason? I only speculate here. 
  I've heard that in special places up north and to the east, the spiritual 
rent seems to be paid (parts of New Mexico?) or the debt was never incurred 
because the invading Europeans didn't destroy the land on a large scale and 
had a different relationship with the local tribes (parts of Canada?). The 
physical/ecological debt is another story and is, of course, international 
in scope. 
 In these clear places, people of all races can chant and invoke the local 
tradition with beautiful, harmonious results. But in this corner of the 
South West, I've heard of folks getting freaked out. Feeling like they were 
being stalked by an invisible animal or getting seriously disoriented would 
be examples.
 
 What I'm getting at here is that I believe that on one level there's a 
genitic/geographic spiritual inheritance. One other levels of the spirit, it 
doesn't matter who you are or where you are. As to the particulars ... where 
one ends and the other begins ... I haven't a clue. Things are always 
changing.
 
 Sometimes I've walked through the wilderness alone and in one canyon it 
seems like the old spirits are saying, "Welcome, traveler ... experience 
with us!" But in the next canyon they're saying, "Leave us alone! ... keep 
walking." 
 In America, we're not very good at leaving well enough alone ...in more 
ways than one. We haven't cultivated that inner self discrimination that 
lets us know whether the message is "welcome" or "leave." 
 We didn't leave. And perhaps now, Goddess and the Shaman are asking for the 
long over due back rent. Paid in full.
 
 With love by the crateful,
 
   Paul
 
PS. 
 If there are any Australians or Euro-Africans on this list, I'd like to 
hear your take on this. It looks like we've developed clumsiness and sacred 
ground trampling into a lifestyle.
 
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