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Recieved: 2000/06/01 12:06
Subject: Re: [K-list] Bliss poll
From: Ckress

On 2000/06/01 12:06, Ckress posted thus to the K-list:

In a message dated 05/31/2000 7:15:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ravensdawnATnospamearthlink.net writes:

<< I've experienced various joys and bliss's through the years, but I've
only had
 one moment of ecstasy/rapture... What was I doing that lead to this? That's
a big question, but to put it simply... I had just made my bed, I believe I
had tied my shoes and was about walk out the door ... then it happened. No
fancy meditations or new age planned enlightenment courses.>>

Strangely, all my blissful altered state experiences have thus far occurred
BEFORE my K blew open (in terms of nonstop energy sensations and daily K
phenomena). I had intense altered state experiences after my K rose, but
these had more of a staggering awe/reverence/nagual/LSD-mind-bend effect than
what I would call "bliss." My earlier bliss/euphoria states came on
suddenly, like Paul's, with no apparent catalyst. It was as if someone had
flipped a switch, and presto. I was in a sublimely altered state lasting
between a couple minutes and several hours on different occasions. These
were not simply endorphin highs -- the exquisite sense of well-being I've
also experienced after prolonged or extreme physical exertion. There was
always a mystical, psychic, paranormal aspect to the bliss episodes.

In retrospect, I suspect that the earlier bliss episodes were partial K
rising experiences, perhaps brief openings of my 6th or 7th chakras. They
were deliciously sweet gifts of grace which I've never been able to duplicate
through any drug or spiritual/metaphysical practices or by an act of will.

I did experience tremendous joy at various times after my K rose, but to me
that is qualitatively different from bliss. Joy seems to come from a deeper
place that is not canceled out by even severe physical pain -- I've felt both
on occasion. Bliss and pain don't seem to go together; the presence of one
means the absence of the other, in my experience.

Sometimes the K energy movements feel pleasurable to me in a sensory sort of
way, which has occurred when I was experiencing pain in my body (since '93,
I've been in chronic pain). I explained it to my husband as if someone was
giving you a nice backrub while you ached all over from the flu. You still
ache all over, but the backrub feels good.

The greatest ecstasy/rapture I've ever known was during my God/Self/Source
awakening over 30 years ago, when I felt God/Self's love for all creation.
Nothing, nothing, nothing has ever compared to the colossal beauty of that!




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