To: K-list 
Recieved: 2000/05/30  14:48  
Subject: [K-list] Re: Just a little Peep! 
From: Divine Goddess
  
On 2000/05/30  14:48, Divine Goddess posted thus to the K-list: 
Brigid writes:   Hi There, 
 I would say again, it has nothing to do with sexual  
hang ups but the distortion of the same by people who term it  
Kundalini etc. 
 
Susan writes: 
*** you are the one who brought it up in the first place. You were 
the  
first one to say 'perversion, attachments, etc.' when we saw sacred.  
we had no hang ups until you told us we did. You threw the first  
rock. What gives you the right of omnipotent moral judgement?
 
Dreams come and go the whole purpose of K is not perverted tantra. 
 
***there you go again. Only you can say what is perverted for  
yourself, not for others, particularly in the realm of spirit.
 
That may satisfy desires but doesn't achieve enlightenment. 
 
****oh my, how your judgements close the doors to the unlimited  
expressions of enlightenment.
 
Much of the bliss  people talk about is a lower nerve/energy  
sensation, not the Bliss of the energy of the goddess.
 
*****heheh maybe in your duality of nerve endings but there is no  
lower or higher in my universe. but the goddess created all those  
nerve endings that you assign to the lower levels of creation. the  
goddess is present in all her creation, even the lowest forms. your  
fine discrimination skills cut you off from the greater parts of her  
creation and therefore an experiential knowing of her divinity in all  
its forms. how elitist you are.
 
Dreams are just that, putting too much store in this ego less play,
 
****dreams, poems, visions, music are gifts sent from the goddess for  
self understanding and awareness.... how sterile your world is.
 
or in Sexual satisfaction dressed up as spirituality is nonsense.
 
****and i say 'bullshit' and feel you world is as barren as your  
words.
 
Sex is just part of the energy that's all, but has the biggest  
attachment.
 
****are you sure you are not really Tony? You deny the sweet  
juiciness, the warm, moist breath of the goddess. If you had been  
slain by the goddess you would not speak so, particularly if you were  
a woman. You do not speak as if the goddess came to you and made love  
to you. You speak as one who's heart is an ancient virgin. You speak  
like a man or a dried up old nun. You have the biggest attachment to  
no pleasureable sex that I have ever seen.
 
 Rising K doesn't need these biways off the highways. It is all about  
cleaning the sheaths of the inner bodies, when they are cleaned by K  
then awareness can dawn. 
 
****there you go again. Limiting the expression of k in your own  
paradigm. K goes where it need to, we follow. If it wants to turn  
someone into a sexual incontinent,obviously that's part of the path 
to  
go. When we fight k then we see the perversion, attachments, whatever.
 
Getting attached to the broom instead of the shiny floor is not the  
way to go....Brigid.
 
****no one here ever says they are attached to the broom (unless its 
a  
phallic substitute...hehehe gotta love those old witches  
stories...penis magic) but you are happy to point out that some of us  
are. It suggests to me that you *know* better than kundalini to tell  
it what route it wants to take.
 
Relax, Brigid. Are you afraid of finding enlightenment thru sexual  
pleasure? What would be the worst thing to happen...No enlightenment,  
I suppose...but who cares? At least you would see how a cosmic orgasm  
is an expression of divinity and unity with all. Perfect peace and  
stillness, the void. Oh wait...that would be something like  
enlightenment....and your paradigm does not allow something like that  
to happen so all you see is some pervert getting off. Who is  
inflicting the greater cruelty here. Me or you?
 
Blessings, 
Susan
 
 
 
 
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