To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/05/30 10:41
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Just a little Peep!
From: Brigid O'Clery
On 2000/05/30 10:41, Brigid O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:
A Chara,
Where did I say bliss is out? Bliss is the sense of energy of the Goddess. I
am talking about confusion and sexual perversion and attachment...Brigid
>From: DruoutATnospamaol.com
>To: bocleryATnospamhotmail.com, Kundalini-GatewayATnospamegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Just a little Peep!
>Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 16:51:04 EDT
>
>In a message dated 5/29/00 11:59:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>bocleryATnospamhotmail.com writes:
>
><< I would suggest that you perhaps broaden your studies, somewhat.
> Sexuality is just part of K but it can be distorted into sexual
> indulgence and not the Tantra. The cleansing prana that is effecting
> you right now can be channeled if you meditate daily, any religion
> will do for using rosary names, if you like that kind of thing.
>
> Using the K as just sex only, does not result in 'realisation', or
> destruction of the ego thought. Preoccupation with cleaning process
> and not the goal, can prolong the process. >>
>
>Dear List,
>
>I was annoyed by this also. People tells us we are supposed to "get
>beyond"
>both bliss and sex, as if there is something wrong with either! I'm
>beginning to think that New Age Fundamentalists are just as bad as
>Christian
>Fundamentalists, and it's all just new age PC propaganda. I'm wondering
>where
>the "get past the bliss" idea came from and when. Does anyone know? St.
>Teresa certainly wasn't told to "get over it!"
>Throughout history I believe achieving "Bliss" was actually the "goal."
>There's a great passage in Sri Ramana Maharshi's *Talks*:
>(p. 102)
>
>Question: "...How to get Bliss? "
>
>Maharshi: "Bliss is not something to be got. On the other hand you are
>always Bliss. This desire is born of the sense of incompleteness...What
>has
>interposed between that Bliss and this non bliss? It is the ego. Seek its
>source and find you are Bliss.
>"There is nothing new to get. ... Trace the source of the ego. Then the
>ego is lost and Bliss remains over. It is eternal. You are That, here and
>now..."
>
>Bliss, to me, is not a preference, it is a state of being. And I wonder,
>also, if it matters how this bliss is triggered--whether from the lower
>"sexual" chakras or the heart or head chakras. I feel they are all
>"God/dess" inspired. I know I experience the bliss through the lower
>chakras, the heart chakra and the upper chakras. (Not so much in the
>stomach
>or throat chakras.)
>
>In any case, we are all exactly where we are supposed to be, in my opinion!
>
>Love, Hillary
>
>
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