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Recieved: 2000/05/23  13:57  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Ego 
From: Ben Holland
  
On 2000/05/23  13:57, Ben Holland posted thus to the K-list: 
It is.....but it is a vernacular experience for everyone that experiences 
it. Just like Kundalini is one such vernacular experience too.
 
That is the rebirth doctrine. In order to avoid rebirth after death one must 
turn away from the materialistic world, forget what one had and face God. 
Once God it faced and one wishes not to return (the urge is strong)- 
memory, knowledge, the subconscious, the body are left behind. Consciousness 
if the only thing left. That is not resolved into God. It nest with God. It 
becomes one with the resolver (imagine a black hole if you will/ Imagine a 
sun. One resolves the other creates. Both points are the same. Energy in, 
energy out. The midpoint is life. It is God).  Most people trip up in the 
initial stages after death because they do not know what God looks/feels 
like. They miss God. God looks them in the face. They sit in Gods throne and 
never know where they are. This is why good spiritual practice is important 
on Earth. To know what will happen. If you know God then God will know you. 
If you do not know God, then he will not know you. This is what is meant 
when people say - "Hell is being out of God's sight." If you miss him 
something happens for 49 days and then one's desire to return to the world 
is just to much for it not to happen. One is reborn and has to contend with 
doing it all over again.
 
There comes a point, when every buddavista, understands that there are no 
heavens, no hells, no Gods, no Goddesses, no sentient beings, no material 
world, no cosmos, no microcosm, no nothing. To understand why this is so can 
help one to find what is beyond the capacity of experience. That area, that 
thing, that void is the goal for many a martyr.
 
 
> Ben Holland wrote: 
> 
> > Kind of -  but awkward. You have to know what happened to the baby 
> > before it was conceived in the womb, to know why it is pure. 
> 
> What if one's 'knowing' regarding what happened to the baby before it 
> was conceived is just another projection of mind?
 
David 
 
 
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