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Recieved: 2000/05/21 15:33
Subject: Re: [K-list] surrender
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent

On 2000/05/21 15:33, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:

   You are so beautiful.. :)

At 03:24 PM 5/21/00 -0400, ckressATnospamaol.com wrote:
> If one believes that God/Goddess has unerring
>intelligence and operates impeccably through all things, why advise others
>surrender? Isn't that a bit like saying, "I have faith that God/Goddess is
>working in perfection through me, but the rest of the world seems to have
>escaped God/Goddess' jurisdiction"?
  Yep, true enough.. but you could say the same thing, about any other
kind of charity..;)

> Awareness grows
>through both surrender and struggle, yin and yang, passive and active
>experience. This may be what Kaura meant by her realization that "I need to
>embrace my situation and pain and discomfort and anger..."
To me, that is another kind of surrender. When she stops resisting the

> Even ego-loss
>mystical experiences aren't permanent. We "come down" again eventually, and
>need to revise our self-identity to accomodate what we experienced.
 and we forget, about the miracles when the needs of physical reality
are pressing...

> I didn't because, while K is raucously active in me all the
>time, I consider HER awake, not me. I've had enlightening experiences,
but I
>don't consider myself enlightened.
I consider you enlightened, but I think of enlightenment as a journey,
not a destination.

> Last night, for instance, my
>husband and I were trying to work through an impasse and I was loudly
>lamenting my abject stupidity and inability to understand anything the
>was telling us. Moments later, I was in a state of lucidity and saw exactly
>what was happening.
> Our breakthrough
>didn't come through surrender, it came after a struggle and a profound sense
>of my own inability to understand what was going on.
 But you DID surrender. You surrendered to *not knowing*. I think that
is the most important kind of surrender.
 Happens to me, like that all the time. Like, when I cannot find
something.. I can look all day without success, but when I admit I don't
know, my body walks me straight to the missing object and puts it in my
hand. For a while I thought it was faeries playing tricks on me, but it
just seems to be the mechanism of surrender.
Writing email, too.. folks ask me questions about stuff, and I think to
myself, "How the hell am I supposed to know???" But I start typing anyways,
and insights come.

> Fully believing that I
>couldn't make sense of it, suddenly I could. That's happened to me many
>times before.
:) Know nothing, be everything.
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada.
Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
 :D ;) :0 :) ;P ;) :D ;) 8D :)
 I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
 than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
~ Harry Emerson Fosdick


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