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Recieved: 2000/05/18  14:44  
Subject: Re: [K-list] P.S....:-) 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
  
On 2000/05/18  14:44, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list: 
At 06:47 PM 5/18/00 +0200, Ben Holland wrote: 
>Has anybody been able to understand why watches sometimes 
>stop on the wrists of people who die? 
 Are you genuinely wanting to know, or is this an invitation to play 
Ben's quiz show? Does anyone care? Did anyone ask you to be their teacher?  
 
If you want to start your own cult, I'd say, go for it. Start with 
creating your own mailing list "Ben's_quizzes_and_theoriesATnospamegroups.com.. 
then the people who are interested in lectures and quizzes can seek you 
out, and you can stop trying to "teach" people who haven't invited you to 
be their Guru. 
 
   List guideline : Respect for other paths. Trying to convert and teach 
without consent is not respectful. It is a side effect of "righteousness" 
which is a power chakra issue. 
   It's not unusual, pretty common early in awakening, but it can lead to 
the kind of psychosis that makes a David Koresh. The simularity, is that he 
was as passionately righteous about his interpretations of the Bible, as 
you are of your interpretations of the science of mysticism. So sure he was 
right, and out to covert everybody to his "superior" way of thinking... or 
die trying.  Go ahead, start your own cult.. 
 
  A few folks have explained to you, that the phase of analysis that you 
are in, is one that passes. Your theories cannot hold the Infinite, words 
are limited things. The logical mind that analyses is the weakest aspect of 
intelligence. 
   The phase you are in is common enough, particlarly the "righteousness" 
that goes with it, thinking that you know it all... but don't try to cling 
to it, because it will pass.  
  
What Wim and a few others have tried to explain to you, is that you are 
going thru a power chakra opening. Yellow gold, solar plexus. The mental 
level where Will is the power and thinking is the path. Where power games 
are the rule of the day, and status issues are your instinctive behavior. 
 
I have mostly been observing you, and it is clear where you are at, 
from what you do. The silly power games of "testing" the listmembers, with 
backwards acronyms and quiz questions, the "take my ball and go home" 
reaction to Thomas, the endless wordy essays on your view of reality, and 
the righteous reactions when folks disagree... these are all power chakra 
behaviors, and for those who have "been there done that" it is just your 
insecurity showing.  
 What are you trying to prove, Ben? Why do you need to prove anything? 
 
It's OK to be having a power chakra flare, we all must go thru the 
stages of growth at our own pace, but it is silly to be trying to convert 
the listmembers into taking what is for them, a step backwards. 
 
You speak of being in the 11th dimension, but your behavior shows that 
you are not. There is a completely different universe at each chakra, and 
above the heart these endless analyses you cherish, are just noise. 
 
So long as you think you can logically understand the universe, you are 
in a space that is too limited, for you to ascend to *become* the infinite. 
 
There are a few different experiences of knowing. 
There is the immature idea that you can know it all. There is the 
experienced realization that the more you learn, the more there is to know, 
and there is the Grace to giving up intellectualizing altogether, 
surrendering words, because logic cannot hold the infinite.  In 
surrendering limitations of belief and logic, you can expand your 
consciousness to experience Being Infinite. You cannot do that, so long as 
you are passionately clinging to a box of words. 
 
   Power chakra issues, Free Will vs. Divine Will. You realize that human 
thought effects reality, and cling to that power.. but the analytical ego 
thinking you are using as your navigation system, cannot see all the 
ripples of any action, to truly know what is "best". 
   The monkey mind is flying the space shuttle, and it's scary for the 
monkey, and hard on the space shuttle. The body mind can see all the 
ripples, but it usually does not speak in words. It speaks in the language 
of feelings and energy. It is that web of consciousness that organizes and 
manifests the synchronicities you count as your mental achievement.  
   
  You celebrate the mind over the body, but the body is tuned into the 
collective consciousness of matter, in a way the mind cannot express. 
Matter is energy.. Matter can be manipulated by thought, but when you 
surrender doing that, you will discover that it has it's own, collective 
intelligence that is greater than the intellect of free will. The first 
part of a power chakra opening is just what you are doing, discovering the 
hidden powers of the intellect and how belief shapes reality. The latter 
part of it is a reversal of that. Abandoning belief in favor of surrender 
to Divine Will. Letting the body-mind make decisions, instead of the ego. 
Listening, instead of preaching.  
    
Anyhow, most likely your box of beliefs won't allow you to grok my 
meaning, and you are so certain of your righteousness, that I doubt you are 
listening, anyhow. Just be respectful of the list guidelines, OK? This 
cyberspace is not your personal soapbox, nor are we your students.  
   Blessings..  
 
 
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When in Rome.. Blessings.. 
 
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