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Recieved: 2000/05/12  15:13  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Is everyone ok re these crazy entities?. 
From: Wim Borsboom
  
On 2000/05/12  15:13, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list: 
Dear Lou
 
You wrote:
 
> I had these feelings (deep empty pit feeling in my 
> stomach) before but transmuted them... 
> This was years ago.
 
Lou, I've noticed over the last week that you are doing extremely well on 
the and AHA!!! front. In fact you are getting so close to the original 
integrated self that the original *physical feelings* that the original 
body-self had when it was still integrated with the whole being are being 
revived. That they feel so much the same to the feeling of anxiety when you 
were in the depressed state is understandable. When one is acutely depressed 
or in a anxiety or panic state one actually remembers and feels the physical 
feelings OF the moment  AT the moment when the first or worst violation of 
one's integrity took place. That last physical memory of that moment, even 
though it felt ugly at the moment of the violation, it felt sweet just 
before that violation. Unfortunately that feeling (solar plexus chakra in 
your case) became associated with the moment of pain or loss of integrity. 
What you feel now is the original feeling of your sweetness but not 
connected to the feeling of wellbeing yet (usually that of a sweet, strong 
and happy infant at the moment of clarity while playing and and in a state 
of free willed imagination and creativity.) The feeling that you have now 
needs to be reconnected with the recovered state of wellness and 
integartion. 
I'll write a little bit about myself, not necessarily how I went about my 
reintegration... there would be too much crazy detail to get into now, and I 
have written about much of that before. 
When I was in the thralls of my deepest depression I experienced intense 
panic and anxiety feelings all through my body but especially concentrated 
around the the chakra areas in the front of my body. It was as though the 
chakras were directed the wrong way, out instead of in  or in instead of 
out. Or they were revolving the wrong way, leftward instead of rightward or 
vice versa. But they always felt as though they were in need and empty... 
Whereas now they are all pointing and turning properly: accepting as well as 
giving, gregarious as well as grateful, sharing as well as participating. I 
had to reinterprete those feelings though, bring them back in with a clear 
mind and free will, almost like reprogramming my mind and body as you are 
doing now I expect. It is a matter of breaking  those feelings loose from 
the associations with losses, hurts and violations and recovering their 
original feelings of wholeness and integrity.
 
I'm not writing the following list to show off, but to give directions in 
which way to work at these things to rebuild the original physical feelings 
and destroy the old associations. 
By the way, THEN I went through many years of intense hurt in the first six 
years of my life, from attempts to be killed in a occupied hospital during 
the tail end of the second world war, sexual molestations, attempts to be 
burned and strangulated. I pretty well experienced the whole range of 
calamities that can befall a human being. NOW I AM OK
 
I will describes the characteristics of my physical and emotional feelings 
before and after the transformation from the bottom up so to say, according 
to sequence of our main chakras or energy centers.
 
. THEN, anal retention, holding in and back, diarhea and constipation. NOW, 
vitality with a wonderful feeling of contentedness and stability around the 
peri-anal area. (Sometimes like the sweet feelings of a good crap or a nice 
pee. Hehehe, wee wee wee wee, hehehe. I had to do a lot of work in that 
area.) The potty frustrations! 
. THEN, obsessed eroticism as in negative horniness :-), deviated needy 
homo-erotic and pedophile tendencies (taking i.s.o. giving). NOW, the most 
fantastic unconditional eroticism without express need for climax or orgasm. 
Rather equanimious feelings of always being in the sweetest state of sensual 
love. Sexuality and eroticism are so wonderful and sweet and constancy is a 
their main characteristic. 
. THEN, anxiety and extreme unfulfillable nervous emptiness in the pit of my 
stomach, fear and shakines from the navel down into my legs and calves, 
stomach problems and indigestion. NOW, intuitive benevolent gut feelings 
directed by a mental clarity and a freeness of will. Independent of 
conditions. My navel area always filled with the sweetest feelings of gentle 
and fulfilledness happiness. No intestinal problems anymore and a normal 
uncomplex appetite not based on obsessive -isms. 
. THEN, distress around the heart, poor breathing, heart palpitations, 
constriction with breathing, heaviness in the lungs and painful pangs on the 
left side of the heart, fear of contact, shutting myself off and in, or an 
artificial extravertedness and forced ebulience. NOW, the sweet feelings of 
something resembling puppy-love. Remember your first love, how tender, 
gentle sweet around the chest area, the feeling of happy butterflies when 
you were anticipating meeting your love again. The left and right side of 
the chest so large and filled with a gladdeing vastness. Taking in, giving 
out... breathing wholeheartedly in an upward direction... feeling the divine 
heart within. 
. THEN, a harsh, raspy, crackly voice almost. Keeping the neck and upper 
back muscles tight while speaking... Keeping those neck muscles tight 
against the gripping pressure from the outside about to suffocate you 
expressiveness. An overzealous security and dogmaticism, not accepting 
contradiction, arrogance. NOW, a softer voice, less of a voice... almost a 
voice that waits for and listens for the feedback. Singing and humming often 
or just sounding one's breathing. An ease and willingness to yawn and open 
up, the sweet relaxed sighs of relief and inner peace. Speaking my 
intentions, aspiration, hopes and dreams. Also not being afraid to sing 
someone else's and my own praises when those hopes have been realized. The 
hoorays for accomplishment. The Ahas of discoveries, The Hehes of merriment. 
The Hahahas of exuberance. The falsetto laughter of satori. The honey taste 
of nectar down my throat. 
. THEN, dreams for escape sake, fantasies of grandeur, megalomania, dreams 
of being chased, flooded away by uncontrollable streams of fear down my 
brains, the headaches. The imaginations of deviations and weirdity. The 
somberness, the abyss, blankness, the armageddon internalized in myself and 
wished for to befall the world as reprisal. NOW realizable dreams, 
blueprints to be executed and finalized. The restful enjoyment and sitting 
back in contentedness after a finished project. The justified satisfaction 
of a dream well realized and a job well done. Not dreams of what I wished to 
do or would have done but of what I will do and what will be done. (What 
will be done is already done!) The divinity of the human being, the humanity 
of the divine live. Psyche and Amor in love (Left and right sides of the 
brain integrating maybe ?!!!) Sweetness in the brow and temples as though an 
embracing of the two sides of the brain...masculinty and femininity 
undifferentiated or not putting conditions each other's expectations. 
. THEN, the utter forlorneness, the desolate loniliness, the hatred and 
apathy. The utter disconnectedness from any reality. The doubt about the 
reality of reality itself. The all encompassing illusivenes, the utter 
suffering and crazines. Existence led by guilt and suffering. Being just a 
figment of some misguided imagination. NOW, I JUST AM. The glory, the bliss, 
the unconditional happiness. The freedom and independence as well the 
respectful responsibility to the simplest good, truth and love.
 
And all that FELT physically as well as creatively as well as volitionally 
as well as emotionally as well as vocationally as well as inspirationally as 
well as holistically.
 
> I've been 
> waking up the last two days with the same deep empty pit feeling in my 
> stomach that I used to have when I had those feelings and I assumed I was 
> depressed. 
> This time around, I am able to separate myself from the feeling 
> and just observe it curiously.  It is intense and definitely there but has 
no 
> effect on me. I know I am not depressed but had I not learned to detach, 
> these feelings would be driving me nuts.
 
So the idea is not to detach because those feelings will come up again and 
they have to. That is part of what K does... For me all the feelings (the 
experience of unconditional energy running through your body) that used to 
be linked to anxiety and panic and suffering and guilt are now cleaned up 
and an expressions of the conditionless state...
 
As always I use too many words, Lou... but I hope it will help you see the 
context and the direction that this takes. Manu saints of yore have stumbled 
over this, been confused by it, and asked for God's help in this... 
eventually falling into the total state of grace and glory... The feelings 
you feel are the happy forebodings of that.
 
Love and "Way to go, Lou, good for you." 
Wim
 
 
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