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Recieved: 2000/03/25  02:17  
Subject: [K-list] Blame Canada 
From: Danijel Turina
  
On 2000/03/25  02:17, Danijel Turina posted thus to the K-list: 
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamiskon.hr>
 
At 17:13 2000.03.24 PST, you wrote: 
>From: "Marion Hanvey" <loulou_3ATnospamhotmail.com> 
>lessons? I do.  I spend quite a bit of time with spiritualists, in the  
>absence of many yogis here in Manchester, and they get on my nerves, saying  
>we're here for the development of the soul, and if life was easy we wouldn't  
>learn.  I feel like kicking their heads in, there's nothing to develop and  
>nothing to learn.
 
They sound like wise folks, I'd like to chat with them; we share the same 
perspective of things. It's like the gym - the good workout makes you swet 
and your muscles hurt like hell, but you _do_ improve the state of your 
body; if you don't exaggerate. People have a great unwillingness to change, 
inertia is one of the greatest forces of nature - tamas. If people are not 
confronted with situations in order to see the limitations of their 
perspective, the qualitative change of human nature would not be possible. 
Those confrontations don't have to be unpleasant, sometimes one can learn a 
great deal through love and gentleness. However, I know for a fact that 
this is not an omnipotent method. When you let people just feel loved and 
OK, they become inert, they don't grow, and they have a tendency to 
manifest their latent crap, which creates need for the more dramatic 
situations. 
But "blame it on the victim" is bullshit, and also "we create our own 
reality". Those things have to be properly understood, or else you get 
situations like justification of rapes in Sai Baba's asram, or murders and 
child molestations in ISKCON - "it was all their karma". Maybe so, but 
certainly not in the sense meant by those who make such statements; their 
karma could be the awakening from the illusion of the cult that they found 
themselves in, and not the punishment for some past crime. Karma is not 
about "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth"; if that was so, everybody would 
be walking around blind and with no teeth in their heads. 
When someone doesn't want to awaken, you first whisper "wake up". Then you 
shake him. Then you speak loudly. Then you yell. Then you kick his ass with 
an army boot. And when all that doesn't work, you pour cold water over him. 
God is not stupid, he never uses excessive force, and my experience is that 
people always get _just enough_ to be pushed in the direction that they 
need. Karma is an excellent tool, and I really admire its creator for it.
 
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