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Recieved: 2000/03/23 15:54
Subject: Re: [K-list]Osho.. and the application of criticism
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent


On 2000/03/23 15:54, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:

From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>

At 06:39 PM 3/23/00 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:
>From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamiskon.hr>
>> ????? Oh, the reflecton game again..:) but your first post, upon
>>returning to the list, you attacked everybody and claimed a superior
>>perspective..
>
>:))
>I didn't attack anyone, I just said how I see some things, that's all. Calm
>down, you're exaggerating with your aggression-defense attitude.
ah.. you see purity, right?

>>>Well, I had no other options, since you were wrong in everything
>> Yes, you always think so.. :)
>
>No, you were always right and I was always wrong. Happy?
  Ooooooo.. very sexy.. keep that up and I'll be trying to enslave
you, again..;)

>>> except the
>>>fact that I overworked myself and that I need a vacation badly,
>> Yes. :) But you like flaming me, better than sleep..:) A change is
>>as good as a rest, they say..:)
>
>Flaming you takes less effort than sleeping, and it's more natural. ;)))
ROTFLOL!!.. that's a good one.. :) I'm glad you are feeling
refreshed..

>But I'm not really flaming you, I'm as calm as an iceberg. Titanics can
>sink themselves on me, I won't get moved much. :)
  Good!! I felt the blast of hot air from the last post, tho.. whuff..
prickly coming off my monitor.. but I went into witness and out the other
side into amusement. This one made me LOL and applaud. :) You must have
gotten some sleep. Good!

>>>But I'm long
>>>past the phase when I tried to prove you wrong all the time. I accepted the
>>>fact that you will never understand me, and when I did that, I lost the
>>>need to persuade you and explain things.
>> Then why do you still do it?
>
>Do what, persuade you? Naah, I lost too much nerves doing that, now I'm
>just talking to you. The fact that we disagree is normal. ;)
 If we agreed on everything, there would be no conversation. We'd be
left talking about ice cream. Speaking of which, I just ate an ice cream
O-Henry bar, for breakfast, and was it ever yummy!! Almost as good as
Haagen Daz caramel, my new favorite flavor.

>>> Do you know your limits, do you know
>>>when to stop? When the criticism becomes harmful, counterprouctive, misused
>>>and simply hurts everybody without any real reason?
>> You really do need more sleep. My post was playful. You are coming
>>out with guns blazing.. :)
>
>I'm coming out with guns blazing? Naah, I'm calm and relaxed - almost
>asleep.
 Well, what's all that about hurtful, counterproductive....and all that
other stuff I snipped ???

>>>I have seen many situations where you made obvious projections - you didn't
>>>talk to the real people, but to your images of them, and then you could get
>>>extremely violent,
>> Who is violent?
>
>You are, you even see it when there isn't any. It's just that it has to
>belong to someone else, because you're Goddess. :)
   Ah so.. me violent.. crazy whip wielding psycho bitch Goddess with
an attitude.. Dark Kali, I guess.. or maybe the Morrigan. There is a spell
to invoke the Morrigan, it begins, "Gather 9 severed heads".. she was a
Celtic Goddess of war.
Someone recently decided I'm Lilith.. flame winged demon who eats
babies.. I was amused, because she is kind of the patron Goddess of
Dominant women. She left Eden coz Adam insisted on the missionary position.
 However, I managed to persuade him that HE is Lilith.. that she is the
shadow side of his animoose. So now he has to learn to love her
unconditonally. :)

   Anyhow, you are the one who was suggesting I murder the impostor.. :) I
was surprised, altho I shouldn't be.. crazy Croation berserker.. I'm glad
you are feeling more relaxed, today.. :)

>>>but when someone projects me with their shit, and does it with a
>>>spiritually-enlightened-self-righteous way, my reaction is disgust, and
>>>then I either flame or leave.
>> What happened to seeing purity in everything?
>
>You said that everything is Goddess, so I have to say that it isn't,
>because otherwise we would agree, and there would be no conversation. :)
  *applause!*

>>> I'm developing another reaction; resignation.
>>>I shrug and don't give a shit.
>> I think that is a better reaction.. Shrug, laugh, don't care..
>>detachment..
>
>Naah, it's indifference, it's worse than murder. I don't like feeling that.
  Hmmmm.. so if I do it, it's violent, and if you do it, it's
passionate.. verrrrrry interesting..

>>>I would really like Sai Baba to be present here and be able to speak for
>>>himself. Then I would flame his ass off.
>> ROTFLOL!! Well, he's not here, but I guess I'll do??
>
>Naah, he'd be much more tasty, like a ripe piece of fruit to be knocked
>down with a rock. :)
 What do ya mean, I'm not tasty? <pout>
   Well, if you have his email address, I'll add him to the list..;P

>Oh, I believe you. I chatted with a fly on the wall once. It was a very
>profound and meaningful conversation. The fly really got to know my inner
>nature. ;))
  Two of a kind.. I'm not surprised.. ;)

>>>No, my judgment, you can call it that, is not about "giving to the poor",
>>>no; he should have allowed the students to keep their money,
>> Why?
>
>In order for them to feel no difference between having and not having it.
>It's not about money changing the owner, it's about the owner rejecting the
>idea of ownership.
  Well, if they give it to him, they have the experience of having it
then not having it, and they get to experience the joy of giving, too.. :)

>>>but he should
>>>also have helped them to break their inner attachment to the physical
>>>reality, to the entire mamata-ahamkara consciousness, of "me-mine"; that is
>>>a worthy goal.
>> Uh... that's what I was telling you to do, yesterday.. to break some
>>possesive attachments that are dragging you down.
>
>:)) Aaaah, I'm being dragged down, glogloglobllllfff...... <drown> ;)
  Sigh.. guess I'd better bail you out, again....

>>>As I said, I'll wait for you to come back and tell me about it. :)
>> I will.. :) Blessings!!
>
>I think I'll start the bets, about whether you'll still argue with me after
>you see me in RL. :))
 Well, I hardly ever argue with people in R/L.. it's much more fun to
argue over email, coz they cannot interrupt.. :) :)
Blessings...

 Mystress Angelique Serpent, http://www.domin8rex.com
  Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
8) :D ;) :0 :) ;P ;) :D |* ;) 8D :)
 <<<< I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
 <<<< than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
 <<<< -- Harry Emerson Fosdick


   

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