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Recieved: 2000/03/23  11:47  
Subject: [K-list] Jerry's distress 
From: Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)
  
On 2000/03/23  11:47, Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) posted thus to the K-list: 
From: "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
 
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Sent:	Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:44 AM 
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Subject:	Re: [K-list] Re: Conny Larsson's Story on Sai Baba.
 
On the other hand, l'll admit that l continue to 
be distressed by the fact that most of the gurus in eastern traditions that 
have come to the west or have marketed themselves to westerners have fallen. 
There are many who no doubt rejoice in this fact, and there are others who 
will go to any length to deny it and/or rationalize it.  ln that l have 
devoted myself to eastern traditions for nearly  20 yrs, l definitely do not 
rejoice in it. But l cannot deny it, nor am l able to buy into the 
rationalizations l have heard offered in their behalf. Some argue that we 
should only focus on the message and ignore the messenger's misdeeds.  That, 
again, is a matter of personal choice. lt just doesn't happen to be mine. 
jerry
 
Jerry, I love you brother and fully support your right to be distressed (for 
as long as you want). Honestly. No one has the right to tell you "to just 
get over it!"  I am not being sarcastic or anything. Frankly, it might not 
be healthy to "just get over it!"  Especially when what you say is true. And 
it is true brother. There are fallen teachers everywhere (East, West, North, 
South) and they are falling all the time in all traditions. Never 
underestimate the pull of Gravity :--). Rising and falling happens in 
Gravity, unless perhaps one takes a mighty jump and goes straight into 
orbit!  Listen brother. The Light and the Dark exist in relationship to each 
other. The opposites make up the world.  That, which has no opposites, 
cannot be spoken of directly but indicated. If someone can do that, and make 
you feel and believe that you are the ultimate authority, S/he is a good 
teacher. If someone can show you the way to your Own Heart, That Person is a 
Guru. And once you reach the Core, the Essential Truth of the matter, you 
will see Jerry that You have always been the One True Guru. I can understand 
your disappointment because you spent 20 years in traditions where you saw 
many promises being broken. Promises of holy men. Perhaps True Love means 
never having to make a promise. Promises are made to be broken. So, if it is 
any consolation, this is the nature of things. It has always been the nature 
of things. Sometimes, we just have to see the nature of things.
 
I now declare you Guru Jerry. May you live well and prosper oh grasshopper!
 
Love 
Harsha
 
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