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Recieved: 2000/03/23  09:44  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Conny Larsson's Story on Sai Baba. 
From: Gcwein1111
  
On 2000/03/23  09:44, Gcwein1111 posted thus to the K-list: 
From: GCWein1111ATnospamaol.com
 
In a message dated 3/22/00 7:10:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, dturinaATnospamiskon.hr  
writes:
 
<< I'm very glad to inform you that most of what you would consider to be 
 facts, is possibly just some sort of an illusion.  
 You took the criticism of Sai Baba as a fact; you took the critic's word 
 for it. I have no reason to do so. Before I become inclined to feel 
 compassion for the victim, I would love to have conclusive facts about who 
 the victim is. It might very well be Sai Baba. It is not impossible that 
 he's a homosexual pedophile, but on the other hand I've heard "reliable 
 reports" that he had sex with thousands of women and that he has hundreds 
 of children.  
 Personally, I don't believe that he ever had sex with anyone. I also don't 
 believe that he cheats with the materialization, at least not in the 
 majority of cases. I suggest that, if one wants to discredit Sai Baba, it's 
 best to stick to the results of his teachings, which are mostly 
 disasterous. >> 
 
Well, it's nice to see we agree on one thing, that his "teachings"  
are "mostly disastrous". SO disastrous, l would argue, that the personal  
scandals should hardly come as a surprise. By this l refer to the constant  
promotion of himself as  The Ultimate: God, Krishna, etc and his use of magic  
to build an empire. l feel the evidence against SB was compelling. lf you  
have truly reviewed everything and disagree, then l'm not going to try to  
dissuade you. l think my desire is as great as anyone's not to get worked up  
about this anymore -- the time for that has passed.                              
 
On the other hand, l'll admit that l continue to  
be distressed by the fact that most of the gurus in eastern traditions that  
have come to the west or have marketed themselves to westerners have fallen.  
There are many who no doubt rejoice in this fact, and there are others who  
will go to any length to deny it and/or rationalize it.  ln that l have  
devoted myself to eastern traditions for nearly  20 yrs, l definitely do not  
rejoice in it. But l cannot deny it, nor am l able to buy into the  
rationalizations l have heard offered in their behalf. Some argue that we  
should only focus on the message and ignore the messenger's misdeeds.  That,  
again, is a matter of personal choice. lt just doesn't happen to be mine.        
jerry
 
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