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Recieved: 2000/01/28 08:32
Subject: [K-list] Stillness
From: Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)


On 2000/01/28 08:32, Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) posted thus to the K-list:

From: "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>

Thought you might enjoy this................................Harsha

Forwarding From: "Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowdATnospamuncwil.edu>

I appreciate your comments and your sharing of your view and path. I, as
you, appreciate the concept of stillness. I feel there is a Stillness that
is simply beyond either effort or effortlessness, about which there is
neither an approach, nor no approach. This is Stillness that includes all
sound, all motion, all being. Infinitely far, and beyond any sensing, it is
fully Now. Does it dawn on us or in when we're still, or do we arise in It,
and It always still? All-encompassing, yet possessing nothing, it doesn't
arise in us, or in anything. We and all arise in It, and as It. Arising in
Stillness - this moment as all arises in Stillness - what kind of Stillness
is This?
There are, as you say, paths that prepare people to become still. And, as
everything in the universe occurs in synchronous harmony, such paths arising
and departing are simply an aspect of the total Being, as rightfully in
place as all other arisings. However, a path that prepares a person is
necessarily defined as "preparing a person." There is always a "vehicle" or
"vessel," and "That" which is received by the "vessel". An analogy is
fixing up a radio to be able to receive a certain signal. The question here
is whether there isn't something beyond the reception of signals, something
beyond any vessel? That is, the Unknown as it is in Itself (as Self), not
as a "something" to be received, but as pure "Selfness". How could there be
a path, how could there be a radio to receive Such? It is All radios, and
All signals, and All space simultaneously!
It seems fully a surprise to the "relative mind", the mind-body not able to
"handle" It - only something indescribable, discussed as "opening"
"emptying" "immersing" "transforming", etc. Always purely Unknown,
something for which there can be no preparation. "I come as a thief in the
night," said Jesus.
When we pursue a path that prepares us for something, will the path prepare
us for a pathless Unknown from which being/nonbeing, all time/space/becoming
arise as Totality? The Unknown "acts" immediately, fully, as Totality - yet
completely empty of any identifying characteristics. A path can only
prepare for what is known, something that has a characteristic, something
that can be approached (which involves time). The Unknown is timeless,
needs no approach, has no approach. Nothing is outside of It, so how can
there be one who approaches? How can there be any particular "person"
receiving it, preparing for it? At the same time, how can one say any
"person" is excluded, any path is inadequate, or anything is not already
fully "of It, in It, and through It"?
* Love-Dan

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