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Subject: [K-list] kundalini, is it this, chakras,nadis,mudras,all the re
From: Marion Hanvey


On 2000/01/13 19:43, Marion Hanvey posted thus to the K-list:

Dear Jenell,

If you are getting Spirit contact, clairvoyance, precognition, awareness of
the subtle body/ys, chakras, all or any of that, or any other phenomena that
are outside the range of "normal" experience, then you can safely say, the
chakras are open, or opening, and that kundalini is rising.

The terms, kundalini, nadi, sushumna, chakra, mudra, bandha, kriya etc. are
all terms from Hinduism, from which Yoga arises.

Kundalini - kundalini is an energy that is latent in the body. There is
only one life-energy in the body, kundalini is an extra bit of the same
life-energy, that is usually only experienced during sex, when it gets
released. This energy is not in the sexual organs, if it was it would be
there all the time, it's not there all the time.
During spiritual practise (sadhana) in the East, kundalini is released.
Released but transformed (usually). Not always transformed, but it doesn't
matter, sex is just an energy anyway.
In the West we don't have their spiritual traditions, and kundalini is
released mainly in sensitive, psychic, people by accident.
In the East, the aim is to send kundalini up sushumna which is the nadi
which leads from the base chakra (between your legs) to the crown chakra, in
order to gain enlightenment (quickly). That's fine, they have a tradition
they can call on and gurus they can go to.
We don't. A guru is just a teacher. Guru means one who takes away darkness.

Nadis are just the name for tubes, The tubes through which the energy of
the body flows. Chakras are like the energy receiving, balancing, expelling
points for this energy. All memories are stored at a cellular level, but
it's the energy body which moves them in and out of our consciousness, so
when we start to "awake" to some thing more than what we can experience with
our physical senses, when an energy starts to move in our bodies, it
"resurrects", and I'm not being religious here, old memories, some good,
some bad.
As the energy starts to move, as we become more aware of things other than
our physical bodies, psychic abilities blossom.
By the way, why does everybody talk about the spine? The spine is part of
the physical body.
So that's it. It's just a foreign language.
Mudras and bandhas are like locks or pressure points to affect the subtle
energies of the body, to achieve a desired effect.
The subtle body is what keeps us alive, without it we would be dead meat,
literally.
The chakras are the receivers, balancers and expellers of energy in the
subtle or energy body.
The nadis are the tubes which distribute this energy all over the body.
Kriya just means an action - can be just flinging your arm about- it's
nothing don't worry about it.
Yoga can't bring enlightenment Jenell, all yoga can do is get rid of some
rubbish. Yoga maya means the illusion of yoga, thinking that practising
yoga will bring enlightenment. It doesn't, if you think of yourself as an
onion, it just pulls some skins away.
No practise can bring enlightenment in you, because there is nothing to be
given, it's all already there inside you, inside you are perfect. You just
have to pull all the rubbish out of the way, that is hiding you from
yourself, and look.
Love
Loulou
Come on Christopher, tell me I'm talking rubbish. By the way chakras open
or opening is rubbish isn't it? If they weren't open you'd be dead. It's
the awareness of them, your awareness of them growing.
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