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On 2000/01/07 04:32, Kundalini posted thus to the K-list:

-- Topica Digest --

Re: Re hands and feet and fu;nny sensations
By japsersanATnospamzonnet.nl

Special K
By CrushinMunchkinsATnospamaol.com

Re: Special K
By aurasphereATnospamhome.com

Re: Interim report New Years Poll...Love
By druoutATnospamaol.com

Re: Special K
By kungajigmeATnospamaol.com

Re: Interim report New Years Poll...Love
By anglfthrATnospamiamerica.net

Started Practicing Today
By CrushinMunchkinsATnospamaol.com

Re: Interim report New Years Poll...Love
By aurasphereATnospamhome.com

Re: Started Practicing Today
By aurasphereATnospamhome.com

Re: Re hands and feet and fu;nny sensations
By martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk

Re: Message from Linda : permanent intense feeling in themiddle of
By martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk

RE: missing posts
By k-listATnospamdomin8rex.com

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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 20:52:02 +0100
From: Jasper Buschgens <japsersanATnospamzonnet.nl>
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re hands and feet and fu;nny sensations

Marion Hanvey wrote:
>
> Anyway the point is the computer used to literally suck the energy out of my
> body. I'm not exagerating, it was awful. I became scared of it. I used to
> switch it on, stand at the back and to the side and just poke one finger
> quick, over at the keyboard, to get the messages out, then get out. It made
> me so tired I was exhausted all the time, and it seemed to sensitise me to
> other electro-magnetic fields as well, like the T.V. I was convinced I had
> M.E. I even went to the doctor for a blood test, (came back normal) and I
> never go to the doctor if I can help it. Anyway I re-arranged the computer
> parts so the actual computer itself is now on the floor. (Also got some
> super-duper vitamins which are supposed to wipe out any fatigue and rested a
> lot) and I feel all right now, touch wood. I can feel the energy from the
> computer tickling against my feet and the lower half of my legs, but I can
> cope with that.
Hi Marion,

I can understand this is very disturbing for you. I recognize it for
myself too;
a couple of weeks i started a new job and worked in a hall with about
150
computers, tube light and power cables everywhere. At the end of the day
i returned exhausted and felt very polarized. I can describe it not
otherwise.
First i thought it was the job itself, but guidance told it was all the
electric
fields and the frequency of the tube lights.

So i then asked if they could adapt my energy field as not to be
affected by
it and this worked very well. So i suggest to you to ask your guidance
or
have a talk with your subconsiousness if they can help you. Or if this
doesn't work maybe a visualization will work (it's all comes down to the
same). It is possible to work in such an environment.

Good luck, computers are nothing to be scared of ;)

Blessings,
Jasper


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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:46:44 EST
From: CrushinMunchkinsATnospamaol.com
Subject: Special K

I don't really have a topic for this one I just wanted to see it in the
subject line..... sorry

Eric

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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:25:54 -0800
From: "Wim Borsboom" <aurasphereATnospamhome.com>
Subject: Re: [K-list] Special K

Well Eric, At some point there was something like Special K in the subject
line, Let's see if I can find it.
O, here special K symptoms.

But I guess you (CrushinMunchkinsATnospamaol.com) wanted to munch on some special
crunchings! :-)
Love,
Wim

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-----Original Message-----
From: Wim Borsboom <aurasphereATnospamhome.com>
To: kundaliniATnospamList-Server.net <kundaliniATnospamList-Server.net>
Date: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [K-list] Special K. symptoms

Dear Loulou:

You wrote:

>On a more personal note, is pain in the back of the legs a k symptom, or a
>symptom of a physical illness. (I'm a bit cowardly because my father died
>of a stroke and one of the first symptoms he had, (years before his stroke)
>was calf pain. The pain has only come in the last 2 days

Your calcium/magnesium balance.
Your iron/magnesium balance.
You sodium/potassium balance
Get whole *unrefined* seasalt, eat fish with skin (sole is excellent,
mackerel, canned fish can be very good, depends, use a pendulum), sushi with
lots of nori, seaweed, kelp, dulse. Green stuff...spirulina...etc.

Build up of toxins...blah blah blah

Make sure you yawn and stretch a lot... like a cat... a tiger...
1
With elbows above your head, hands clasped, your head bent backwards while
pulling a happy face and saying between your yawns: " Ah, that feels good,
sooo goood." Gently rocking and twisting your upper body backwards. Make
sure you don't go to the point of pain. It has to feel good. Everyday a bit
further,
2
With elbows lower, level of your hips, again gently rocking and twisting,
but now your middle body, your hips as well. Tense and relax the muscles you
use for urinating and doing your more solid bathroom duties.
Happy face, and cheeks "Ah, that feels good..."

Really clench all your muscles while doing that, go deeply into it,
Ending up with happy tears in your eyes is an indication you have done it
well.

Enjoy,
Wim

-----Original Message-----
From: CrushinMunchkinsATnospamaol.com <CrushinMunchkinsATnospamaol.com>
To: kundaliniATnospamtopica.com <kundaliniATnospamtopica.com>
Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 12:47 PM
Subject: [K-list] Special K

I don't really have a topic for this one I just wanted to see it in the
subject line..... sorry

Eric

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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:37:39 EST
From: DruoutATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: [K-list] Interim report New Years Poll...Love

Dear List,

Only eight people have responded to the poll so far. I am surprised there
have not more. Perhaps people feel their sentiments have already been
wonderfully expressed already, but I'd love to have more replies. :))

As for my own response...my experience began as something fairly prosaic. I
didn't know what was happening to me--just that I was experiencing these
incredible rushes of ecstatic energy at the same time I was "falling in
love." I felt the energy overwhelm me and I'd cry from the sheer
overwhelming joy of it--what Krishnamurti called "unreasonable joy." Later
after experiencing such sensations as explosions of love, all Pervasive love,
being surrounded by love, and "realizations" that God is love, I finally have
come to feel that love is what we all are--what the essence of the universe
is.

Only one other person has said their K trigger was falling in love.

Thanks to all who have responded so far! Any one else???

Love, Hillary

In a message dated 1/2/00 11:03:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, druoutATnospamaol.com
writes:

<< Dear List,
 
 How many of us feel that "love" had a part in their *awakening*. I leave
the
 term vague on purpose. I thought it would be interesting to see the variety
 of ways in which love is defined and experienced in conjunction with K.
 
 Yes and No answers are equally welcome, though. And as always, be free to
 answer on or off list.
 
 Love to all :)) >>


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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:03:48 EST
From: KungaJigmeATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: [K-list] Special K

Would that be served with the milk of human kindness?

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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 21:07:25 -0600
From: Jenell <anglfthrATnospamiamerica.net>
CC: kundaliniATnospamtopica.com
Subject: Re: [K-list] Interim report New Years Poll...Love

druoutATnospamaol.com wrote:
> I
> didn't know what was happening to me--just that I was experiencing these
> incredible rushes of ecstatic energy at the same time I was "falling in
> love." I felt the energy overwhelm me and I'd cry from the sheer
> overwhelming joy of it--what Krishnamurti called "unreasonable joy."
> Only one other person has said their K trigger was falling in love.
>
> While my 'k' trigger wasn't so much realted to 'falling in love' as a trigger, now that you use that way of putting it, yes, especially the first year or so, what I felt like was that I HAD 'fallen in love', madly, passionately, that incredible high, euphoria, of having fallen in love, but not with anyone in particular. Just 'in love'. With everybody, every thing, myself, God, just a state of being in the throes of absolutely head over heels in love. I still experience being in that state a lot, especially when I've done a lot of mediation and prayer, or engaged in a healing work, and in that, most espeically when on of those 'shaktipat' things or whatever it si happen, when I experience a powerful rush of emotion and discharge of energies toward the person. Then I feel so soft and 'mushy', for quite a while. Like I wrote once before, like after a real good intense orgasm. Just want to touch and hold people, try to soothe and comfort others, it's an incredible feeling.
Jenell

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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:50:55 EST
From: CrushinMunchkinsATnospamaol.com
Subject: Started Practicing Today

  Thanx for having a sense of humor everyone : )

Just started my Kundalini yoga today and one of the things that I noticed
while I was practicing is that all the dreams I had last night that I would
have never remembered came to me as clear as day. I was very intrigued by
it. Afterwards I felt incredibly relaxed, energized and clear headed.
Visualization came very easy to me by the end of the routine. I'm really
looking forward to doing it again tomorrow.

Eric

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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:49:00 -0800
From: "Wim Borsboom" <aurasphereATnospamhome.com>
Subject: Re: [K-list] Interim report New Years Poll...Love

Dear Hillary,

Sorry to be late,... Bit busy at the moment, working on a good response to
your poll. Will be a bit lengthy I am afraid, but then you guys are used to
that from me by now. I want to write about how I felt love coming through me
energetically as traversing through the spinal canal and the chakric energy
centres, at each juncture, so to say, taking on additional enhanced
characteristics.
For me love was THE Kundalini thing, it flushed away (pealed off) all the
pain, anxieties, anguish and fears. It felt dangerous at first, being afraid
of love (I guess), because I saw that love in and around me was violated and
frustrated so often, and was associated with so much pain. To return to love
in its original state, I had to get THROUGH the pain. That was the most
frightening, but then I started to see the pattern, letting go of the
shackles, fear for the state of freedom, fear because I knew not anymore
what "free" was in freedom, It became easier as I became more daring and and
started to trust love's real energy as (first) inner strength that was not
afraid to expand itself in loving others into (secondly) outer strength,
strengthening others.
So,just this for now.

Love,
Wim

PS Hillary, When I was 18, when my first ecstatic experience and rapture
happened, I was so in love and it stayed for months. So much the same as
what you wrote, the tears of joy, etc.
Thank you.


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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:03:43 -0800
From: "Wim Borsboom" <aurasphereATnospamhome.com>
Subject: Re: [K-list] Started Practicing Today

Dear Eric,

You wrote:
>Thanx for having a sense of humor everyone : )
>Just started my Kundalini yoga today and one of
>the things that I noticed while I was practicing
>is that all the dreams I had last night that I would
>have never remembered came to me as clear as day.

Will you keep us up to date?
You started with humour, and clarity, you will need both... because it can
get seriously serious... :-)

Love from us all.
Wim

PS.
To be honest, at first it sounded a bit strange to me that you said, "Just
started my Kundalini yoga today" But hey, Eric, what do I know?
Kundalini came upon me, not totally with a bang, I knew it would start the
next morning by itself... but it was not as planned as you seem to do it.
Starting the millennium with K sounds OK to me.
Y2K, maybe that K stands for Kundalini as well.
Any more puns with a K anyone?

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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 07:50:14 +0000
From: Martin Thompson <martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re hands and feet and fu;nny sensations

22:00:59 Wed, 5 Jan 2000
Marion Hanvey at Marion Hanvey <loulou_3ATnospamhotmail.com> writes:
>On a different note, I'm not not quoting bits and pieses out of other posts
>like you people all do out of rudeness, I just can't do it the computer
>won't obey, I've tried. This is an ancient computer, I'll have to get a new
>hard-drive.

What email program are you using? It is a menu option in MS
Exchange/Mail, and presumably in Outlook too. In many other programs you
highlight the text you want to quote before hitting 'Reply.' Failing
that there is always 'Copy,' 'Reply,' then 'Paste.'
--
Martin Thompson martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk
London, UK
   Home Page: http://www.tucana.demon.co.uk
 Free Regular Income: http://www.virtualis.com/vr/mthomps4/vrp.html

"Everything I do and say with anyone makes a difference." Gita Bellin

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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 07:34:42 +0000
From: Martin Thompson <martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [K-list] Message from Linda : permanent intense feeling in themiddle of

08:23:05 Wed, 5 Jan 2000
meetjf at meetjf <meetjfATnospamemail.msn.com> writes:
> I often have had this problem but usually after being on the computer for
>over an hour. Something about the electronics seem to affect my extremities,
>especialy my hands and feet. It takes about an hour to get them warm again.
>Sometimes they even go white and numb at the toes and finger tips. I now
>donot go on the computer that long. I do think it is K related but it is
>always a good thing to check it out with your doc. Much love, Julie
>
>
It may also be caused by an incorrect posture whilst using the keyboard.
The keyboard should be just below the height of your elbows, and the J
should be directly in front of your solar plexus.
--
Martin Thompson martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk
London, UK
   Home Page: http://www.tucana.demon.co.uk
 Free Regular Income: http://www.virtualis.com/vr/mthomps4/vrp.html

"Everything I do and say with anyone makes a difference." Gita Bellin

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Date: Fri, 7-Jan-2000 09:46:50 GMT
From: Angelique Serpent <k-listATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Subject: RE: missing posts


> In a message dated 1/4/00 5:21:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> druoutATnospamaol.com writes:
>
> > Yes. I haven't been getting Amanda's, Loulou's or Tony's posts
> > directly--I
> > have to pick them up at Topica's website. Maybe it's AOL?? Anyone
> > else?
   
  Thankyou for letting me know.. it seemed quiet but I thought it
was the post holiday season lull.

  Sorry to accientally censor you three.. I'm at the website looking at
the settings for the list, and I dunno what is wrong.
   I've written to topica three times over the past week and not heard
anything back. I'm going to fill out thier feedback form then set up a
back-up copy of the K-list at Onelist.com
  In the meantime, would you three go register at the topica website and
see if that fixes the problem? Topica wants all list members to
register, but only about a dozen members have... and please send your
posts to me or someone to be forwarded, so we don't miss you!
Blessings..

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