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To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/12/16 12:16
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Hypnagogic Entities
From: Wim Borsboom


On 1999/12/16 12:16, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:

Dear Loulou,

You wrote to El:
>Of course pain and suffering exist, to pretend otherwise is
>ridiculous. When people say pain exists but suffering does not exist, my
>understanding of this is that after the actual cause of the pain is past,
>people (well I do anyway) tend to hold on to bitterness and "life's bloody
>not fair why did this have to happen to me? What did I ever do to anyone,
I
>only tried to do good"
>So the mind goes over and over it, like chewing gum, hanging on to it, not
>letting go. So at that point the suffering is an illusion because by then
>you're doing it to your own self. So you extend the pain, the length of
>suffering with your own mind, your own thoughts.

You got that right, Loulou.
That's the manipulative part of suffering... also the manipulated part.
Tormentors are always on the lookout for that weakness ... easy prey to be
manipulated and re-manipulated.
Love, Wim

How's Marion's back legs? :-)

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