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Recieved: 1999/12/13 14:50
Subject: Re: [K-list] please remove me - thank you
From: kim fisher
On 1999/12/13 14:50, kim fisher posted thus to the K-list:
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> <owner-kundalini-digestATnospamList-Server.net> wrote:
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> > kundalini-digest Sunday, December 12 1999
> Volume 01 :
> > Number 508
> >
> >
> >
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> > Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:49:32 +0000
> > From: Martin Thompson <martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk>
> > Subject: [K-list] Artificial Life
> >
> > It had to become a possibility sooner or later.
> Scientists are now
> > planning the creation of a new organism, built
> directly from its
> > chemical constituents.
> >
> >
>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_556000/556984.stm
> >
> > Maybe such creatures could be used to mop up
> surplus carbon dioxide
> > and
> > other greenhouse gases and fix them into calcium
> carbonate (chalk)
> > or
> > other harmless substances. Or for biological
> warfare, of course.
> > - --
> > Martin Thompson martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk
> > London, UK
> > Home Page:
> http://www.tucana.demon.co.uk
> > Free Regular Income:
> > http://www.virtualis.com/vr/mthomps4/vrp.html
> >
> > "Everything I do and say with anyone makes a
> difference." Gita
> > Bellin
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 20:10:59 0000
> > From: "winter mute" <mumblecatATnospamangelfire.com>
> > Subject: [K-list] Worldly power
> >
> > On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:34:27 MHortling wrote:
> >
> > >I've often wondered about this, some spiritual
> teachers claim that
> > all traits
> > >such as charisma, verbal skills, imagination,
> genius, whatever,
> > are always
> > >due to kundalini (although genetics and
> upbringing might have
> > something to do
> > >with it also...). This makes theoretical sense if
> one considers
> > kundalini to
> > >be the primal energy that creates eeverything.
> > Yes, I have heard the same thing. :)
> >
> > Many accomplished yogis have had tremendous
> > charisma and, let's call it, spiritual power.
> >
> > But like you say, if Kundalini is the primal
> > energy, then Kundalini exists in everything.
> >
> > >On the other hand powerful
> > >people in the worldly sense, even when equipped
> with exceptional
> > >characteristics rarely show the spiritual drive
> and orientation
> > that seem to
> > >come upon the "normal" person awakening shakti.
> >
> > Wow, Michael, a lot of thoughts come tumbling in
> > at this. :)
> >
> > I have to see if I can sort them out a little.
> >
> > I have considered this:
> > Ppl who have a great drive
> > in achieving political or financial power,
> > e.g. very charismatic and visionary politicians
> > seem to be having this drive because of
> > an intense want of something.
> >
> > It's as if something is lacking in their life
> > and they must do certain things in the hope
> > of filling this lack.
> >
> > I find the same lack and want in artists,
> > scientists and other ppl who are driven to
> > excel in their chosen area.
> > It's as if something is driving them instead
> > of them driving the activities.
> >
> > In artists, the drive seems to have a larger
> > control over the individual than in the case of
> > the politician or the businessman, but who
> > knows what's behind the scenes.
> >
> > To some extent, this drive can be found in
> > all ppl, not only in exceptional professionals.
> >
> > >Anyway, this person literally
> > >oozed power - and it wasn't the money that did
> it.
> >
> > :) I really know what you mean.
> >
> > >So, definitely lots of shakti - but would this
> > >be just inborn and aquired karmic power or what ?
>
> >
> > :)) I really don't know.
> >
> > >I know that in the end it's all just Ma's play,
> but still I find
> > it's an
> > >interesting question - Or, look at Bill Clinton,
> he seems to have
> > charisma
> > >and he also exudes something of an aura ( even if
> in his case a
> > lot of the
> > >shakti gets used in extracurricular activities
> > LOL ! Sex drive is shakti too.
> > As is getting off on power.
> >
> > >...) - maybe you guys in the
> > >States have a kundalini-active president ? >Maybe
> he's the Messiah
> > ?
> >
> > Heh heh heh...
> >
> > Well, I think Mr. Blair has something
> > of a charisma too. :)
> >
> > My rather off hand conclusion about this is
> > that Kundalini lives in everyone to one
> > extent or another. It really is the life force,
> > with all that that entails.
> >
> > In some ppl the energy just becomes more overt
> > and clear for the conscious mind in the form
> > of prana Kundalini and these are the
> > K active ppl.
> >
> > But in many more, the energy may be bobbing just
> > beyond the surface and find expression as
> > charisma, personal power of expression or
> > drive, sort of waiting to surface and
> > working its power behind the scenes.
> >
> > I can't tell you how much fired up this
> > discussion makes me, I seem to see the
> > force and play of Shakti in everything.
> > Of course, the rousing tehcno music
> > they're playing in the background here may be
> > one reason. ;))
> >
> > But again, back to my theory of the sub
> > active Kundalini.
> > I really do think charismatic ppl have a
> > touch of it.
> > To me the energy represents emotions
> > in motion as Magne likes to put it and
> > ppl who do have a lot of emotions and know
> > how to move them, are what we know as
> > charismatic.
> >
> > I must tell you, I have seen
> > footage of that most detested politician
> > in the world, Adolf Hitler, and the way he
> > worked the crowds in the part rallies.
> >
> > The amount of collected energy that is in
> > there has really been food for thought for me.
> >
> > But I have also seen footage of baby animals,
> > chicken when they come out of the egg.
> > The instincts that drive them to
> > fight their way out the shell is the same
> > force.
> >
> > So yes, maybe the gurus are right,
> > genius, creativity, charisma, power
> > imagination, daring etc is directly
>
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