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Recieved: 1999/12/13  06:41  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re Artifical Life 
From: Ville Vainio
  
On 1999/12/13  06:41, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list: 
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, revo wrote:
 
> I too heard about the experiment to create artifical life.  I do not 
> know how close science is or if it will ever create life.  If science 
> ever does create life, it would seem there would be profound 
> philospophical problems for spiritual people.
 
I see myself as a spiritual person, and don't see any problem in the 
possibility of artificial life. I think a part of spirituality is seeing 
beyond the illusory distinction between life and death. If man can convert 
milk into cheese, there is no reason why it couldn't convert a lump of 
dirt into lifeform some day.
 
> If science can create life, then it would appear that life is nothing 
> more than a physcial biological process.  Nothing more.  Nothing
 
Nothing more. How could it be something more? What does "more" mean? Do 
you think a rock is "less" than a man?
 
> spiritual.  It would seem that if science could create life, this would 
> validate the materialistic athestic world view.  It would seem to be a 
> giant defeat for spiritual people.
 
Buddhism has this materialistic atheistic view.
 
> those of us who have a spiritual world view.  I realize there are those, 
> my self encluded, who believe that science and spirituality are not in 
> conflict but are merely different ways of looking at reality.  Yet there
 
I would go as far as saying that science is the thing that fuels 
spirituality. It kills false spiritual ideas, and strenghtens the true 
ones.
 
> are those scientist, who object to any spirituality and insist that only 
> matter, energy and scientific laws exist.  According to these scientist
 
They don't object, unless they are quite stupid (which they sometimes 
are). I have for always believed the "gospel" of science, and found this 
to be instrumental in my spiritual being during the later years.
 
> there is no god and nothing spiritual.  I feel that if they can create 
> life their world view will gain greater acceptance.
 
I'm looking forward to that. I think the concept of personal god is more 
against spirituality than hard-core science. And by science I mean 
physics, physics and physics.
 
Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi    http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio 
 Wild geese have no intention to cast a reflection 
 Water has no mind to assume their form
 
 
 
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