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Recieved: 1999/12/13 06:41
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re Artifical Life
From: Ville Vainio


On 1999/12/13 06:41, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list:

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, revo wrote:

> I too heard about the experiment to create artifical life. I do not
> know how close science is or if it will ever create life. If science
> ever does create life, it would seem there would be profound
> philospophical problems for spiritual people.

I see myself as a spiritual person, and don't see any problem in the
possibility of artificial life. I think a part of spirituality is seeing
beyond the illusory distinction between life and death. If man can convert
milk into cheese, there is no reason why it couldn't convert a lump of
dirt into lifeform some day.

> If science can create life, then it would appear that life is nothing
> more than a physcial biological process. Nothing more. Nothing

Nothing more. How could it be something more? What does "more" mean? Do
you think a rock is "less" than a man?

> spiritual. It would seem that if science could create life, this would
> validate the materialistic athestic world view. It would seem to be a
> giant defeat for spiritual people.

Buddhism has this materialistic atheistic view.

> those of us who have a spiritual world view. I realize there are those,
> my self encluded, who believe that science and spirituality are not in
> conflict but are merely different ways of looking at reality. Yet there

I would go as far as saying that science is the thing that fuels
spirituality. It kills false spiritual ideas, and strenghtens the true
ones.

> are those scientist, who object to any spirituality and insist that only
> matter, energy and scientific laws exist. According to these scientist

They don't object, unless they are quite stupid (which they sometimes
are). I have for always believed the "gospel" of science, and found this
to be instrumental in my spiritual being during the later years.

> there is no god and nothing spiritual. I feel that if they can create
> life their world view will gain greater acceptance.

I'm looking forward to that. I think the concept of personal god is more
against spirituality than hard-core science. And by science I mean
physics, physics and physics.

Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
 Wild geese have no intention to cast a reflection
 Water has no mind to assume their form

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