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Recieved: 1999/12/07 17:56
Subject: [K-list] Re:Endorphins,Samadhi and Energy
From: Maureen Heffernan
On 1999/12/07 17:56, Maureen Heffernan posted thus to the K-list:
Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> OK, here is where comes to me confusion, Holy Spirit is outside of
> space-time, so where is it coming from, when it "enters"?
~~*+M~*
Thx for the great response. Lots to think about.
Is Holy Spirit outside space/time? How does prana enter the body?Or
air? Sometimes one takes in more air and sometimes not.
>
> So, it is possible that there is a belief in you that causes fuzziness
> and limits perception of Spirit in some activities?
~~*+M~*
Sure. I have much to learn.
Where do you
> think they got the idea to make you kneel on gravel to say the
rosary?
~~*+M~*
I believed it to be because they didn't hit us and it was their only
way to make their point that they were really sick and tired of my
bedwetting.
> Outside of Christianity, there are endless forms of Yoga and
Shamanism
> that make use of endorphins, from the Zen Master's cane, to the
Sundance...
> and that's not even going into the realms of Martial arts... certainly
it
> is possible that they are all confused and you are the clever one,
but it
> is more possible that your belief that Spirit is *outside* of you keeps
you
> from seeing Divine mercy in God-dess
~~*+M~*
No, I do not claim to be a clever one, but rather still learning.I
look at the wording, "the Descent of the Holy Spirit", the descent. I
interpet it to mean something that comes down. I have felt IT more and
also less just as more air can enter me or less.
> A doorway that an angry little girl slammed shut.
> I'm just speculating, or course. Feel free to tell me I'm mistaken. :)
~~*+M~*
No, you have very good perception. I just don't explain myself as well
as I could.Angry, oh yeah. Slamming doors shut? To Spirit, never for
these occurrences were the very things that opened up the
siddhas,did I
use that correctly, the psychic powers , at a very early age.
> Again.. clean and pure suggest a polarity of judgments about what
is
> not clean and pure.. who made those judgments, and when? Just
curious...
~~*+M~*
I did. For how else can I explain that kind of JOY? How can I explain
the love I felt when there is no love on earth like it? Beyond , beyond?
I have experienced many different forms of earthly love and joy. I can
only write beyond, beyond. Would I use the opposite, dirty and impure?
Clean in ITs crisp clear clarity . Pure in that during one experience I
had things physically removed from me. Pulled out of me. Every
thought I
had ever had in my entire lifetime that was not loving was taken from
me. To the point of thinking,gee I hate that little snot kid in school.
Any even innocent little nagging feeling that I had ever had in all my
years was taken out from me and then the glorious filling up that
took
place. Something descended and filled in those places that were
emptied.
Filled with a love that knocked me to my knees in its Power. I wrote of
this to this list when I first joined.I choose the word pure because
that is ITS aspect. Can you imagine having every single rotten even
little childish innocent, not-so-nice thoughts taken from you? And
then,,,,
I did not fill myself. I was filled from something without that entered
into the core atoms of my physical body and soul.It also involved the
Sacred Heart. But that is probably my filtering from my training. I
remember Harsha answering a question of mine about the grinning
little
dark skinned boy with the white turban on his head, stepping from an
oval shaped spheroid towards me. I was happy that I am beginning to
*filter* in these terms. I want to use all filters and all avenues of
perception, but when I write of such things I know in my own mind that
these are not endorphin stuff. Is this clearer? Am I making some sort
of
sense?
The sadistic actions of the Romans,
> were aligned with Divine Will, because they were needful to create a
> resurrection.
~~*+M~*
This I know and recall writing in another post that I nod to *them*,
bugaboos in acknowledging there purpose in the grand scheme of
things.
Christ himself accepted torture and huiliation as a route to
> a higher spiritual state, and so did his brides, for centuries... so why
> can't you?
~~*+M~*
If it is asked from the Christ that I unite my suffering with His ,I
will indeed and have done so. But I will not play with my endorphins
for
a high.
> God is a sadist who makes little girls kneel on gravel is an
> unacceptable thought, so up went a wall. Separation.
~~*+M~*
G*d was the one afterward when it was over and I was sitting quietly
on my bed, who came to me and enveloped me and gave me more
strength to
endure. As a little girl G*d was the opposite of the people who made me
do that. Do you see?(The little girls perception.)I had the endorphin
stuff while kneeling. This was later and different. Delayed release?
God
= a delayed release? I don't know. I know you wrote of the wolf
chewing
the leg off. I know at a very early age I snapped and had to *get out of
there* and couldn't. It was years later when I heard a song that I
remembered picking up a hairbrush and brushing my arm quite firmly
while
singing that song over and over and over as the salavia ran down my
mouth and my arm bled. I left. I wouldn't call it an OBE as I had no
awareness. My brain snapped and I left into nothingness for I don't
know
how long. I,,,,,chewed my leg off.Children are not supposed to know of
such things. Minds were not meant to be snapped that far, that early
in
life.From that extreme to very pleasureable endorphin release
through my
marriage and love of my husband and birthing my children to Sacred
Heart
happenings. Quite the gamut.One of the ways I came about to
handeling it
was, *uniting my suffering* to G*d's will.Actually I am quite proficient
at it. I am long done with the anger and if had to relive it again to be
where I am at today would so do the same.His/Her Will be done. We are
not altogether too unalike.
:) Yes, I am long past *needing* sex, and K-fire doesn't usually
feel
> sexual to me, but it does to some of my slaves, so I pick up on their
> desire. Why not? It's fun. :) I meet them where they "live", and take
> their hand to lead them onward.
~~*+M~*
Yes, I see and will snip for brevity.Those url's were very
informative.
> :) Hmm.. that's interesting.. it is a lot information Earth and Sky
> path... I experience the center of the Earth as part of my own system,
> where my root chakra is fed from.
> The sky-energy incoming from above doesn't stop at my tailbone,
before
> heading back up. I am rooted into the Earth, so I bliss on the wonder
of
> the amazing design of Nature. Goddess provides Endorphins. Wow!
What a
> miracle!! LOL!! :)
~~*+M~*
Sounds GREAT!
> I still think the difference in our experience is skypath vs.
earthpath.
~~*+M~*
I am also studying this more deeply as it explains quite a bit. Good
concept.
> About a year or two after the wart burning incident, around 1990, I
set
> aside my ego in an act of desperation, knocked on a door that opened,
and
> went into the Light, with the classic K. experience of vibrations and
> dazzling light and angelic presences.. a trip to Heaven.
> (Dunno the Eastern term for it..)
~~*+M~*
Can't say as I've been to Heaven yet but I feel I would die for
another encounter of what I was graced with before.
> Till then I was on a sky path.. I could bliss out in the light, and
> bring it down to share. It was when I demanded to bring the bliss of
Heaven
> fully into my everyday world, that I was sent to walk in the
darkness,
> roleplay the abuser of the abuses I'd suffered and a number of very
> creative new ones I'd never thought of... and learn to see the light in
it.
~~*+M~*
I understand this. As you say *roleplay*. I could never do for real
to another what was done.
> So, Maureen, I can appreciate your insistence that endorphins and
> Spirit is Separate.. I used to think so, too, when I was on a sky-path.
~~*+M~*
I'll have to go back and dig up that url because I see that as a
chemical change in the brain and that;s all.And I recall a
sentence,*when I go I will send The Paraclete, The Comforter to you
to
remind you, so that you can remeber all I have taught you.* Now I know
endorphin release was around a long time before these words of the
Master, so I wonder what He speaks of. Just men's words written in a
book? But yet, I experienced something.
> Sky-path, you describe a linearity.. energy coming to the root and
back
> up and out.. Been there done that.. Yet below the root is a whole
other
> system, that is a reflection of the chakra system above it.
~~*+M~*
Yes, but this is not me now. I celebrated my 4th anniversary of my
ordination Dec. 3rd. I have not stayed the same as down spine,up out
hands.
> That is a linear explanation.. but the center is the Heart.. and the
> heart holds a fractal of the universe.. so as above, so below.. time
and
> space do not exist so the universe is beyond our linear ideas.. but if
you
> understand the loop, then when you take on somebody else's
blockages and
> get cut off from the higher chakras wisdom, you can dive into the
center of
> the Earth to clear them... or into your own heart.
~~*+M~*
Or into the Sacred Heart?
> I am not sure if I am putting this well into words, I trust Shakti to
> carry the message so you can grok it.
~~*+M~*
Wonderful job. There's a LOT here.
> To enter Eden (heaven on Earth) one must pass under the fiery
sword,
> and be without fear.. that means fearing Lucifer is a no-go. When one
can
> attain unconditional love for Lucifer, who is acting as ever in
service to
> Divine Will by manifesting as the portal Guardian reflecting our
own
> unforgiven Karma, then one passes into Eden, and there is
trancendence of
> separation between spirit and self.
~~*+M~*
Will it surprise you to know that years ago I was in great empathy
with him and prayed for him. I understand.
> Thankyou for expressing your experience. You precieve a
difference,
> and I agree sometimes these things can be separate.. but if you
choose to
> percieve them as unified, then they become unified, and it is blissful.
~~*+M~*
Thank you for the oppurtunity.
> >and we did a Confirmation that I and another lady who attended
began
> >levitating.
> KEWL!!!!!!
~~*+M~*
VERY.
>
> When you act with love in service to Other, tickling your daughter
into
> giddiness because it makes her feel loved, you are Being Goddess.
Not what
> comes in, what you Are.
~~*+M~*
Ahh, but I don't equate the Holy Spirit that was sent as the same as
pre-existing Goddess.But I quit now,enough bandwidth,enough of your
time
and mine and many many wonderful things to consider. I'm still
working
on the big freeze.
Humans need to touch each other. 2 hugs a day for good mental
> health.
~~*+M~*
Oh, that explains it.(joking). I am a true hermit living alone.
> It is, and I celebrate your willingness to open to the ideas, and keep
> beating your head on the "fuzzy wall" till it makes sense.. thankyou
for
> honoring me with your attention.
~~*+M~*
I will make sense out out of it some day,,,,,,soon. And actually I
answered your invitation for I read in your post about a certain
person
who left the list who used to be into bdsm and " now is all
*spiritual*.....la la,,,,Maureen can have him." We just wear different
costumes,yes?
Hoping you're not groaning too much that I ever joined up here.
(joking)
Sincerely,
+ Maureen
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