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Recieved: 1999/12/05 16:10
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Another poll. Samadhi
From: Gcwein1111

On 1999/12/05 16:10, Gcwein1111 posted thus to the K-list:

In a message dated 12/4/99 10:04:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, CKRESSATnospamaol.com

 > (identification with an object, accompanied by higher thought forms) and
 > nirvikalpa (identification with the transcendental Self only, devoid of
 > content of consciousness). Some traditions refer also to sahaj samadhi,
 > spontaneous ecstasy while still in am embodied state. ( l got this from
 > Feurstein's Encyclopedia of Yoga --- just a few excerpts)
 What is meant by "object" in this context? I've had spontaneous shifts
 I've morphed into the consciousness of a tiger, a crocodile, a sunflower
 (that was euphoric), and a whole garden of plants and trees. Also I once
 tapped into the consciousness of an ant colony, again totally unexpected.
 What a rush: a sheer liquid-symphony of energy. None of these involved
 "thought" in the ordinary sense, but rather a sensory/instinctual or
 astral/energy consciousness.
 I've experienced the Self/Void state, devoid of ego/body but still a state
 primordial/source consciousness in which all creation was experienced as
 illusion/maya/nothingness. When consciousness is totally absent, how is
 there awareness of this state? Is it like a total blackout? If so, how
 it register in mind/memory? >>
 Hello El,
 Hey, are you directing these questions at me, knowing what
little l know about this stuff? Ha Ha That's why l was careful to mention
Feurstein as my source, so no one would think l was claiming personal
knowledge. Anyway..... l would think "object" as it's used would refer to
whatever the object of meditation is -- mantra, yantra, deity,whatever --
given that the Hindu traditions are usually talking about samadhi as a
meditative state. And, maybe l'm wrong, but l haven't understood this as a
state in which consciousness would be totally absent. The Self/Void state
which you've experienced (and remembered) sounds very much like it to me.


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