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Recieved: 1999/12/04  21:34  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Another poll.  Samadhi 
From: joel
  
On 1999/12/04  21:34, joel posted thus to the K-list: 
>> Samadhi is definitely not the same as epiphany. lt refers 
>>  generally to a profound state of ecstasy --- a complete merging of 
subject 
>>  and object in its highest form. The traditions distinguish between 
>savikalpa 
>> 
>>  (identification with an object, accompanied by higher thought forms) and 
>>  nirvikalpa (identification with the transcendental Self only, devoid of 
>any 
>>  content of consciousness).  Some traditions refer also to sahaj samadhi, 
a 
>>  spontaneous ecstasy while still in am embodied state. ( l got this from 
>>  Feurstein's Encyclopedia of Yoga --- just a few excerpts) 
> 
>What is meant by "object" in this context?  I've had spontaneous shifts 
where 
>I've morphed into the consciousness of a tiger, a crocodile, a sunflower 
>(that was euphoric), and a whole garden of plants and trees.  Also I once 
>tapped into the consciousness of an ant colony, again totally unexpected. 
>What a rush: a sheer liquid-symphony of energy.  None of these involved 
>"thought" in the ordinary sense, but rather a sensory/instinctual or 
>astral/energy consciousness.
 
Yes, i'd like to know too.. if possible..
 
> 
>I've experienced the Self/Void state, devoid of ego/body but still a state 
of 
>primordial/source consciousness in which all creation was experienced as 
>illusion/maya/nothingness.  When consciousness is totally absent, how is 
>there awareness of this state?  Is it like a total blackout?  If so, how 
does 
>it register in mind/memory? 
> 
>I know that transpersonal experiences are very difficult to verbally 
convey, 
>and sometimes they get codified in spiritual literature in a misleading or 
>inaccurate way.  I've had numerous epiphanies -- not mental realizations, 
but 
>different perceptual/awareness/experiential states, all of which are hard 
to 
>explain to anyone who hasn't "been there" in a similar way.  Although it 
>seems arbitrary to me to break them into categories, if hard pressed, I'd 
say 
>mine have been either of an extreme expansion of consciousness "awakening" 
>type, or of a merging/consciousness "oneness" type. 
> 
>Once, for instance, while listening to a street musician playing guitar and 
>singing in a park, I merged with his music.  I was no longer hearing it, I 
>simply WAS it.  Although I was in the back of a crowd of about 40 people 
>gathered to enjoy the music, when the musician finished his set, he walked 
as 
>if hypnotized straight through to me and seemed intent on connecting with 
me. 
> I didn't tell him about my merge-experience (figured he'd think I was 
nuts), 
>but I knew that it had something to do with why he'd been drawn to me.  We 
>went to a nearby cafe together and realized that we both felt as if we were 
>in an inexplicably altered state.  We started talking about 
synchronicities. 
>He told me that although he'd never had a paid job, he never lacked 
money -- 
>it just appeared from the universe when he needed it.  The moment he said 
>that, a penny flew through the air from who-knows-where and landed directly 
>on our table.  While it delighted us, neither of us were in the least bit 
>surprised.  At the time, it seemed like the most natural thing in the world 
>that the universe would validate his statement...
 
oh wauw.... :)
 
> 
>El 
>
 
 
 
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