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Recieved: 1999/12/04  20:02  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Another poll.  Samadhi 
From: Ckress
  
On 1999/12/04  20:02, Ckress posted thus to the K-list: 
In a message dated 12/4/1999 9:03:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
GCWein1111ATnospamaol.com writes:
 
> Samadhi is definitely not the same as epiphany. lt refers  
>  generally to a profound state of ecstasy --- a complete merging of subject  
>  and object in its highest form. The traditions distinguish between  
savikalpa  
>  
>  (identification with an object, accompanied by higher thought forms) and  
>  nirvikalpa (identification with the transcendental Self only, devoid of  
any  
>  content of consciousness).  Some traditions refer also to sahaj samadhi, a  
>  spontaneous ecstasy while still in am embodied state. ( l got this from  
>  Feurstein's Encyclopedia of Yoga --- just a few excerpts) 
 
What is meant by "object" in this context?  I've had spontaneous shifts where  
I've morphed into the consciousness of a tiger, a crocodile, a sunflower  
(that was euphoric), and a whole garden of plants and trees.  Also I once  
tapped into the consciousness of an ant colony, again totally unexpected.   
What a rush: a sheer liquid-symphony of energy.  None of these involved  
"thought" in the ordinary sense, but rather a sensory/instinctual or  
astral/energy consciousness.
 
I've experienced the Self/Void state, devoid of ego/body but still a state of  
primordial/source consciousness in which all creation was experienced as  
illusion/maya/nothingness.  When consciousness is totally absent, how is  
there awareness of this state?  Is it like a total blackout?  If so, how does  
it register in mind/memory?
 
I know that transpersonal experiences are very difficult to verbally convey,  
and sometimes they get codified in spiritual literature in a misleading or  
inaccurate way.  I've had numerous epiphanies -- not mental realizations, but  
different perceptual/awareness/experiential states, all of which are hard to  
explain to anyone who hasn't "been there" in a similar way.  Although it  
seems arbitrary to me to break them into categories, if hard pressed, I'd say  
mine have been either of an extreme expansion of consciousness "awakening"  
type, or of a merging/consciousness "oneness" type.
 
Once, for instance, while listening to a street musician playing guitar and  
singing in a park, I merged with his music.  I was no longer hearing it, I  
simply WAS it.  Although I was in the back of a crowd of about 40 people  
gathered to enjoy the music, when the musician finished his set, he walked as  
if hypnotized straight through to me and seemed intent on connecting with me.  
 I didn't tell him about my merge-experience (figured he'd think I was nuts),  
but I knew that it had something to do with why he'd been drawn to me.  We  
went to a nearby cafe together and realized that we both felt as if we were  
in an inexplicably altered state.  We started talking about synchronicities.   
He told me that although he'd never had a paid job, he never lacked money --  
it just appeared from the universe when he needed it.  The moment he said  
that, a penny flew through the air from who-knows-where and landed directly  
on our table.  While it delighted us, neither of us were in the least bit  
surprised.  At the time, it seemed like the most natural thing in the world  
that the universe would validate his statement...
 
El
 
 
 
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