To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/12/01  04:37  
Subject: Re: [K-list] carnivor vs herbivor 
From: Zala
  
On 1999/12/01  04:37, Zala posted thus to the K-list: 
Interesting how so many of you try to trivialize an issue that involves 
immense 
suffering and degradation of numerous species. 
Working as a chef and boiling crayfish alive I had nightmares of being 
reincarnated on a planet of intelligent crayfish who debated the best ways 
of 
cooking human in order to maintain the flavor and tenderness of flesh. In 
these 
dreams I was always pleading with my captors that we are an intelligent 
species that suffers pain. Needles to say my pleas fell on deaf ears and 
I was nightly boiled alive. 
This "experience' eventually had me give up cooking as a profession and 
meat eating as a habit. I wonder how the human race would be judged by 
an advanced , intelligent species of invading aliens who found us to be 
'good 
eating' ? 
If ever judgment day arrives and The Almighty turns out to be a vegetarian 
are we in trouble . 
My only doubts involve questions as to the 'design' of our teeth - so 
obviously 
geared to meat eating efficiency.
 
If I could bring myself to kill, as some American Indian tribes did, I 
could 
would eat meat. Many of these tribes believed that if you need to kill 
an animal for food you did so with respect and induced as little suffering 
as possible. They also believed that at the moment of releasing your 
arrow / spear you should visualize your victim as yourself reincarnated 
as that creature. That is you are killing yourself. 
We have sanitized and hidden the killing and suffering involved in meat 
eating to the extent that many children I have discussed the matter with 
hold the peculiar notion that meat is manufactured behind scenes at 
the supermarket. Often when the process of slaughter is explained to 
them they refuse to ever eat meat again (much to the horror of 
their parents.) 
Nutritional issues aside ( and they are serious and not often addressed 
by the vegetation community) isn't it time we all face up to the proven 
carcinogenic effects of a constant consumption of meat? 
>From a yogic perspective it is often maintained that the consumption of 
meat agitates the nervous system and mitigates against effective sadhana. 
(I wonder if any empirical research has has been conducted into this 
claim?)
 
In  unforgiving moments I pray that consumers of poultry, pork,etc 
products 
obtained by battery farming are reborn a human battery farm to experience 
the 
horrors of such a life.
 
The ecological arguments as to area of land required for meat production 
as 
compared to grain/vegitable consumption are often conducted on other news 
groups - given the perilous state of this planets' ecology this needs to 
be 
considered as well.(but probably not in this forum)
 
As we have upset the natural species balance of this planet so thoroughly 
we must also ask ourselves how we would manage an environment in which 
the remaining animals were allowed to breed unhindered- ironically ,as 
experience 
in Australia has taught, this level of protection can,  in itself, cause 
animal 
suffering 
through overpopulation - necessitating regular culling.
 
Even though I am still capable of chomping onto a thick steak and enjoying 
it 
(35 years of inter species cannibalism are an in-grained taste) I cant 
bring 
myself to indulge.
 
 
 
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