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Recieved: 1999/11/29 12:47
Subject: [K-list] Jesus and the Essenes and India.
From: Tony O'Clery
On 1999/11/29 12:47, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:
Namaste All,
With regard to Jesus being associated or raised by the
Essenes there is a lot of information pointing to
that.
My sources indicate that Jesus left Palestine, at age
thirteen, and travelled to India, Tibet, Persia,
Greece and finally Egypt, where he took his final vows
in the great pyramid, John the Baptist was also there.
In India he visited with the Jains in their caves, he
visited a group associated in someway with the Essenes
in Jaganath. He spent time in Kasi and eventually went
to Buddhistt Ladakh/Tibet, where he spent some years
in a monastery and practised Raja Yoga.
In the monastery at Himis in Leh there were kept on
palm leaves the records of St Isa's life, the Eastern
name for Jesus. These were initially brought to light
by a Russian, R Notavich. They are also confirmed by
Swami Abhedananda of 'The Divine Life Mission', whose
master also saw and read those leaves and wrote about
them.
One must remember at this time that Ashoka's
missionaries were present throughout the middle-east.
If one reads Josephus the historian, he mentions Jesus
and also he talks about the Essenes, so does Pliny.
The Catholic Encyclopedia states, " The Dead Sea
Scrolls, however show grounds for suspecting
considerable influence, which does nothing to destroy
the originality of Christianity."
Essenes and Christians held similar attitudes to
communal living, the sacramental aspect of baptism,
prophecy, reincarnation, healing etc etc. They both
revered the 'Book of Enoch', and the 'Book of the
secrets of Enoch', later banned by the Nicean and type
councils that established 'modern purgated
Christianity'.
They had the same greeting, " Peace be with you", and
both were opposed to taking oaths. The Essenic meal
was 'bread and must', must is non-alcoholic wine,
which was their brotherly meal, or Christian Agape
(now the Mass).
The Qumran writings of the Essenes heavily influence
the New Testament it seems.
The Essene Temple was at Mt. Carmel, Qumran was a
secondary site, code-named Damascus, as in Paul/Saul
on the road to Damascus.
Prefix to the Carmelite Constitution in Rome 1281.
A.D.
" From the time when the prophets Elias and Eliseus
dwelt devoutly on Mt Carmel, holy fathers both of the
new and old testaments….lived praiseworthy lives by
the fountain of Elias in a holy succession
uninterruptedly maintained."
It is believed that after Jesus' resurrection, he
returned to Kashmir, and perhaps even visited Malaysia
also. It is said he lived until his nineties and is
buried in the 'Rozabal Tomb', in Srinagar. One family
has tended this tomb for generations, the ' Tomb of
the Prophet', it has stone feet outside with
nail-holes in!
Love Tony.
P.S. In the Bible, 'Thou shalt not kill', 'He that
killeth an ox is as if he slew a man, he that
sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's
neck.Issaiah 66:3, also check, Gen 1:29,Gen.9:4,
Leviticus 3:7, 7:23.
Also these vegetarians, Plutarch, Pythagoras, (Pita
Guru?), Buddha, Mahavira,Ovid, Plotinus, Porphyry, Da
Vinci, Einstein, Emerson, Gandhi, Krishnamurthi, Pope,
Rousseau, Schweitzer, Shaw, Shelley, Tagore, Thoreau,
Tolstoy.
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"God is formless. In order to merge in the formless God,
you have to give up identification with the body."
"There is only one 'Soul' and 'That' is God." Sai Baba.
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