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Recieved: 1999/11/24  18:27  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Hildegard of Bingen 
From: Jenell
  
On 1999/11/24  18:27, Jenell posted thus to the K-list: 
GCWein1111ATnospamaol.com wrote: 
> 
 
> also a reminder that mystical experiences are not infallible, even those of 
> so-called great spiritual beings. 
> 
I am not familiar with the person in question here, but will comment on 
this statement. It is absolutely correct. As myself having been going 
through the process of learning what is to live as a mystic, a part of 
that has been learning that I ust carefully evaluate anything that might 
seem to come to me through my mystycal experiences. Most involves the 
impurity of the channel, myself, my own mental ego is very determined to 
maintain  a place in my experiences. I've come a long way in the work of 
regressing the ego, but it is, and always will, still be there, as long 
as I reside in this body. 
 
Another reality in the mystic experience is the existence of spiritual 
entities, beings, of sorts other than what we would seek for pure truth 
and knowledge, ready and eager to take advantage of any oportunity the 
ego allows them to give misleading or false input. There are seducing 
spirts, deceiving spirits, lieing spirits, to be considered by any that 
have entered the spiritual realms.  
 
Third, there is the matter of the mystic learning to interpret what they 
are givn mystically, often in highy symbolic and allegorical form, into 
what it might 'ean' in the 'real' world. 
 
Fourth, many mystics are also telepaths. This can creat tremendous 
difficulty in discerning mystic revelations from dis-carnate sources, 
and what might filter into their mind from other PEOPLE'S thoughts and 
ideas, that they may not immediatly recognize as such. I have had 
considerable difficulty with that, until I learned to ask the spirit for 
'confirmations', and wait for those confirming signs and synchonicities. 
I still have to be very careful of that. And the idea you object to in 
what this other mystic has claimed IS a strongly held belief/thought 
among a number of people, from who's minds it could have come to hers. 
 
As a mystic myself that has experienced some 'revelation' in that 
direction, I quite completely dissagree with that idea. The 
'anti-christ' was already manifesting at the time the New Testament was 
written, that is quite clearly stated in those writing, and is already 
quite fully developed and in 'power' upon the Earth right now. All one 
must do to recognize it is open one's spiritual eyes and look for it. 
But when one does 'see' it, one will also know why most of us that have 
done so know it best to not speak about it too loudly, if we wish to 
keep our heads on our shoulders, anyway.  
Jenell
 
 
 
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