To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/11/21  16:55  
Subject: [K-list] Miracles and how to? 
From: Tony O'Clery
  
On 1999/11/21  16:55, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list: 
 
Namaste Brothers and Sisters,
 
How do Sai Baba, Jesus and other Yogis perform 
miracles and manifestations?  That is rings, solid 
gold statues, vibhuti, heal the sick, raise the dead 
etc? 
It has nothing to do with vampirising energy, from 
others etc.  It all has to do with risen awareness and 
consciousness.  I personally practice yoga but have no 
desire to acquire or practice any Siddhis, even though 
I am aware they are there. Jesus said,' all power 
comes to he who has overcome', or close enough.  
 
Patanjali in his Yoga-Sutra, chapter on Vibhuti-pada 
goes into this quite a lot. Talking of Samyama, or 
intense concentration and meditation on an object or 
desire. In order to acquire siddhis, however intense 
yogic discipline is required.
 
Sai Baba says that anyone can materialise objects, we 
all have the same potential.  He says it is a matter 
of meditation and intense detailed visualisation.  
There is no need to take energy from elsewhere.  All 
is one and the energy is one!
 
The level of one's consciousness determines  the power 
or Yogic-Siddhis.  So the more one becomes everything 
the more one can manifest anything.  The siddhis 
themselves are a distraction to spiritual advancement, 
except in a Perfected Master.  Around such people 
miracles happen spontaneously, for what they think 
instantly happens and what they say, must happen.
 
A big miracle is how a seed becomes a big tree or an 
animal etc. Everything is a miracle the only 
difference is Kala or time taken, that's all.
 
Many people have psychic powers at the lower level but 
these can be obtained by opening even the lowest 
chakras and mean little, spiritually.
 
However some  non-yogic types also use spirits, who 
help them manifest and apport. The lower planes are 
full of spirits, pretas, captive souls etc, from the 
time immemorial and from the Aztecs etc.  Not 
including ancient 'thoughtforms', that have built up 
and can influence men's minds. 
 By their deeds we shall know them!  However most of 
the manifestations and miracles are usually of a lower 
order than those of Masters.
 
As Swami says, 'people come for tinsel and trash they 
don't come for what I have come to show, Liberation 
itself'.
 
Love and Sai Ram, Tony.
 
 
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