To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/11/20  17:18  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Gurus&Sex Juice vs PRINCIPLE of Ecstatic Communion 
From: Wim Borsboom
  
On 1999/11/20  17:18, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list: 
Dear Tom,
 
Dan Winter wrote: 
>I tried to explain how large scale harvesting of 
>human glandular juices, uv blue fire aura / ecstatic/sex juice , was the 
raw 
>material Sai Baba needed for Vibuti production.
 
Tom wrote: 
>a devotee told of Sai Baba  "milking him " for his semen
 
This thing is very complex and we should not put this into the category of 
sexual deviations or aberrations, there is a long hidden (subconsciously 
transmitted) history on this since primordial times. 
Let me just write down some of my experiences and thoughts on this.
 
At some point during the *male* K process (don't know how this functions in 
women, I have inquired previously to the list but did not get any responses) 
semen does not produce sperm anymore and the semen turns into a glandular 
secretion. The epididymi's functional involvement differs from the process 
where semen/cum/sperm is used for procreative purposes. The epididymi (this 
is in my case, any corroboration or comments from other male Kundalites 
would be greatly appreciated) separated from my testicles into two sweet 
organelle like blobs. Just touching then will send me into ecstasy if I want 
that. The testicles, which are as far as I know very sensitive to pressure 
and could be very painful, are now totally insensitive to pain and the 
lightest squeeze again can put me easily into ecstasy (any corroboration 
from the guys here?) 
One way or another, (Dan Winter spotted the same process, he refers to it in 
one of his webpages) this glandular secretion goes up into the spine through 
a tiny orifice and gland, propelled by reverse pelvic rocking. The reverse 
pumping, if I may say so, is directed more backwards-and-up than 
forward-and-up. This additional glandular supply increases the 
cerebro-spinal-fluid inside the cerebro-spinal-canal inside the spine, the 
meninges and the five paired ventricles that are dispersed throughout the 
brain, from 125 cc to a possible 250 cc. Much of this is actually minutely 
documented, although very poorly translated, in original Sanskrit yogic 
literature. The Hatha Yoga Pradipika is very clear on this. Just find a 
translation that is complete, it does not matter if it is bad, one can 
easily read between the lines. Ignore lines that sound like obvious 
commentary interjected by ignorant commentators.) 
When the amount of CSF (cerebro-spinal fluid) gets over a certain threshold 
some of it drips from the third paired ventricle down on top of the soft 
palate and/or on the back of the tongue. The sensation of the pressure 
release and the dripping is extremely sweet. This is what is referred to as 
'nectar', 'soma', 'ambrosia', 'amrita', elixir, 'love potion'  etc. Not that 
the taste of the liquid is sweet, it is not, because the liquid is actually 
alkaline in its very nature. Its consistency is like Jell-O, or more 
properly stated it IS the consistency of jelly fish. In fact it is the 
original sea-creature in us before we started to surround ourselves with 
calcium accretions and other appendages. I have memories and realizations of 
this, so does my wife. Ppl. that have used magic mushrooms and coke conveyed 
similar experiences to me. 
When the CSF pressure is high and the spinal column is in excellent shape as 
to curvature and flexibility in the "three degrees of freedom" (this seems 
almost a prerogative) the fluid emanates from the canal into all the nerve 
pairs that extend from the spine around and forward to the front of the 
human body, the various nerve plexes or chakric energy centres. I postulate, 
I have seen this functionally by introspection (?:-!) but I don't know if 
the nomenclature that I use is right, I postulate that the soma substance 
('soma', I like that word because of its 'somatic' portent) gets transported 
in minute amounts of stuff/vibration/energy along the nerval dendrites 
underneath the myelin sheathing. When the energy pulses reach the front of 
the body the sensation initially felt as sweetness but it can increase in 
intensity to the highest states of ecstasy. Orgasmic ecstasy as by nearly 
everyone is one-sevenths of the (at least) 7 ecstasies  that can be 
experienced.  Each ecstasy having a slightly different ring (vibration) of 
sweetness and intensity. 
About Vibuti, I have been able to extract some of my nectar and was tempted 
to process it, but never felled compelled enough to use it in my practice. 
Jesus used the same stuff in his cures. I found that miracle cures are not 
always lasting and too dependent on the healer, or vibuti supplier. Complete 
healing in the final analysis can only be instigated AND maintained AND 
consummated by the healing person. I come from a line of 'healers' that 
started with Aka(demos), healer of the people, the very guy who invented the 
arrow head and other stone tools, we are helpers, hand holders only, tool 
makers only.  I find that most alternative healing practices, even if we 
call them holistic, are still un-whole, we need to heal (ourselves) at the 
root. I will help clients to get to the root quickly and avoid the 
round-abouts. We should not transplace suffering, pain and ailment with the 
fascination of the miracle however inspiring, short lived as they are and 
hard to maintain by the fascinated as they are externally brought about... 
even if the divine source and divine enrages are implemented.
 
Love, Wim
 
 
 
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