To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/11/20  12:13  
Subject: [K-list] Answers to some thoughts and questions! 
From: Tony O'Clery
  
On 1999/11/20  12:13, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list: 
Sai Ram Brothers and Sisters,
 
With regard to raising K, both Sai Baba and Satyananda 
have said that one should work on the Ajna chakra 
first.  Because of all the karmic propensities 
involved with the two lower chakras.  This could 
result in dangerous experiences, mental imbalance, 
delusional states, illness etc (have you read the 
K-list recently).
 
It is amazing how rumours and misunderstanding spread, 
especially in India.  Where if two villagers think 
something, the next day a hundred do!
 
In a group interview, one family brought a young 
man/boy who was having some problems.  Right in front 
of all the witnesses Swami rubbed and stimulated the 
boy's cocyics or base of the spine.  The seat of the 
Muladhara and the Svadhistana chakra.  This energising 
it seems cured the boy of whatever his problem was.  
Now if one didn't have faith in the Guru or didn't 
know anything about Tantra and Kundalini, one would 
think the boy was being molested.  Especially if this 
was done without many witnesses.  Enough said !
 
With regard to meat and alcohol etc.  I am aware of 
the fact that there are many small beings killed when 
we breath even.  I have read the Jains also. 
However as with everything in human endeavour motive, 
is important. Trying to hurt 'less' and also break 
addictions/attachments, like meat-eating and alcohol 
are steps in Sadhana. I am aware that plants have 
senses in fact a book ' The secret life of plants', 
indicates this. However they don't have the developed 
nervous system of animals. Also one could read Tagore 
on this.
 
Satyananda indicates that the Svadhistana chakra is 
associated with vegetarianism. The female Deity is 
Saraswati and Rakini.  This is an important chakra for 
the tendency here is to descend to the root again. 
Once the energy reaches the Manipura the tendency is 
not so much to descend, but ascend.  So purification 
exercises, to help rise from the lower chakras is 
important.
 
They say that some Yogis eat meat, well if they are 
Jivanmuktis, they eat what is put in front and there 
is no karma to overcome. For they have remembered 
themSelves. Only a handful of people are receiving 
Moksha, the rest of us are at different levels, most 
in the Manomayakosa and not in the Higher Chakras.
 
Love and Sai Ram, Tony.
 
 
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