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Recieved: 1999/11/19  20:34  
Subject: Re: [K-list] If There Is A God... 
From: Pokimontaz
  
On 1999/11/19  20:34, Pokimontaz posted thus to the K-list: 
<< If there is a god, why is this earth such a hell?  How could a god, 
 he-she-it, bring into being such a world where all of nature, beautiful 
 as it may be, "lives" by killing.   >>
 
CORRECTION:  Earth does not live by killing.  Earth is a fragile ecosystem  
being destroyed by the every expanding egos of the human race.  Other animals  
control their population to conserve resources whereas we just keep making  
babies noone can take care of.  Our people live on the streets and we pass  
them in cars, turn a cheek and act like they dont exist.  Unlike animals  
though we are given the gift of reason...we chose whetehr or not to believe  
in a god and decide the consequences of our actions.  Earth in its principle  
does not base its existence on killing; please keep in mind the circle of  
life spoken of in the lion king.  We must respect the earth in order for her  
to respect us.  We ahve lost respect for the earth and poison her with out  
pollutiona nd ar now paying the price dearly and so will our children.  Does  
this mean that our God(s) don't care what is happening to us?  Not  
really...think about the toys your parents gave you when you were little.   
Sometimes you broke them for whatever reason.  Because you broke the toy does  
that mean that your parents dont love you and care for you?  NO but they gave  
you that toy and it was your responsibility and any suffering you have as a  
result is held on your head for you are the sole caregiver of that toy.  The  
earth is a toy that God gave us..and some how we have lost out connection  
with her and are suffering dearly.  Sometimes I wonder if we as humans are  
really even mammals, anyone whose seen Matrix will know what I am talking  
about.  The comment was made that humans are not really mammals, they are  
viruses of the planet.   if we were mammals we would not reproduce without  
adequate resources and we would help each other, we would be connected to  
ourselves and our earth.  but we are not mammals we are viruses who attack  
their hosts (earth) and use its resources without replenishment and continue  
to replicate until we kill our host and each other.  God gave us life and the  
tools....we are responsible for how we use those tools.  If I beat a man over  
the head with a hammer is it Craftman's fault for making the hammer...is it  
sear's fault for selling it to me?  NO so why is it god's fault we kill each  
other and plague the earth?
 
<<Last nite I watched a nature film "Vanishing Edens" on Public TV.  The 
place was the Southwest USA, a very beautiful area, but all that the 
animals in the area did was eat each other.  How could a half way decent 
god created such a hell?>>
 
we eat the animals which in turn eat plants...once the animals die their  
carcuses nourish the plants for other animals to eat.  Its the way the world  
turns and if noone ate each other all populations would run loose.. Note that  
the only animal to waste its food product is man though.  My cat eats the  
whole bird not just the leg or breast....in general we are very wasteful.  
Earth was not hell til we forgot to take care of her.  Think back to the days  
when man dependend on only earth...if he didnt take care of her she didnt  
take care of him (farms and such).  We have lost this through technology and  
development.
 
<<And look at "great" American companies that oppress their workers, 
making life miserable for the many at the bottom so that an evil few at 
the top can amass more wealth than anyone could possible need...how can 
any self respecting god allow this?>>
 
This one is a big harder.  but in any wolf pack there is an alpha and omega  
male.  Alpha male is head and omega is the underdog, last to eat, often badly  
beat by the others.  That is the way of the wolf....are we wolves no but we  
are apprently pack animals (societal) so maybe that helps partially explain  
our structure.  But also we as humans have this thing called ego, as you well  
know, and it keeps some people who may be the least bit stronger than others  
a leeway for oppression.  they act on others hardships and profit from it. It  
sucks I tell you that but i dont think god can be blamed for actions people  
do to themselves here.  Stand up and fight is all i can say to beat  
oppression or live forever as the omega wolf...sorry i dont have a better  
answer.
 
Lynsey
 
 
 
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