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Recieved: 1999/11/16  12:14  
Subject: Fwd: [K-list] deities 
From: Smilingjaguar
  
On 1999/11/16  12:14, Smilingjaguar posted thus to the K-list: 
>  Personal, subjective "proof" is not admissable as evidence in the court of  
> the Cosmos but thanks for playing! 
   
ROTFLMAO IRL  You're judging what is admissable in the court of the Cosmos???  
 *trying not to send her milk through her nose*  Hint:  It's the COSMOS.  Try  
again, but thanks for the laugh... 
   
>  I could say I have "proof" that reincarnation exist because I have  
verified waking 
>  dreams/visions of past lives through research and also experienced  
definitive 
>  sensations of authenticity but I would not dream of trying to convince  
> someone of this. It is MY experience and thus, subjective.
 
I *don't* try to convince others.  Have you seen me speak of my visions on  
this list?  No.  To tell the truth I don't give a rat's ass about proving  
anything to anyone.  You are the one who seeks proof, but yet you say you  
seek nothing.  Be honest with yourself about that which you seek or you will  
never find it.  I have proof that occured in physical life.  But again, since  
it can't be measures with your five physical senses it is inadmissable to the  
court of the Cosmos *really trying not to start laughing again.  Didn't work.. 
...ROTLOL*  
  
>  What is the truth of the universe? 
  
LOL...that's something we're all here to figure out. 
  
>  Oopsie! You interpreted my words "ME" and "YOU" as meaning individuals. I 
 
> was not 
>  clear enough, sorry. We are individuals but we are also One, are we not?  
  
If I wanted to be an ass right now I'd tell you to prove it.  No subjective  
input.  Prove it. :)  But my answer is not until we shed these bodies...not  
in the cullest capacity that we are capable of...mostly because the physical  
body cannot handle the range of frequencies and strength of the energy waves  
that those without physical bodies can. 
  
I  
> can't 
>  prove that but it feels good so I go with it.  
  
But you can't think that way, and neither can anyone else, because you made  
such thoughts inadmissable to the Court of the Cosmos, remember? ;0)  Don't  
you hate it when you hang yourself like that???? *grinning* 
  
I don't close doors, I just don't 
>  choose to dwell in a lot of the empty rooms some doors lead to. 
   
But whether they are empty or not will always be a matter of perception, and  
inadmissable as well, since it is so subjective. *giggling* 
   
> > Actually, what I believe is dependent upon personal experience only.  
 
>  Those are the only beliefs to place faith in, I would agree. 
   
*laughs*  We agree on something?  Woohoo! :0) 
   
>  Gee, you sound like me, how come we are arguing? 
>  ;) 
   
I dunno...probably because you came across as an atheistic jackass in your  
last post who denied anything but physical you and me. :0) I think that's  
where the majority disagreement comes in. 
 
>So, is there a division between "divinity" and "humanity"...is there  
 really? 
>  P'raps reaching a point of realizing completely that a division does not  
> need to 
  be drawn is what it takes to "ascend"? 
   
There is a line drawn when we are physically incarnated, from my experience.. 
the limited ability I've noticed to handle energy does separate a bit. :)   
Besides, ascension holds nothing for me. 
     
Kimberly
 
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:09:22 EST 
Subject: Re: [K-list] deities 
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>  Personal, subjective "proof" is not admissable as evidence in the court of  
> the 
>  Cosmos but thanks for playing!
 
ROTFLMAO IRL  You're judging what is admissable in the court of the Cosmos???  
 *trying not to send her milk through her nose*  Hint:  It's the COSMOS.  Try  
again, but thanks for the laugh...
 
>  I could say I have "proof" that reincarnation exist because I have  
verified  
> waking 
>  dreams/visions of past lives through research and also experienced  
> definitive 
>  sensations of authenticity but I would not dream of trying to convince  
> someone of 
>  this. It is MY experience and thus, subjective.
 
I *don't* try to convince others.  Have you seen me speak of my visions on  
this list?  No.  To tell the truth I don't give a rat's ass about proving  
anything to anyone.  You are the one who seeks proof, but yet you say you  
seek nothing.  Be honest with yourself about that which you seek or you will  
never find it.  I have proof that occured in physical life.  But again, since  
it can't be measures with your five physical senses it is inadmissable to the  
court of the Cosmos *really trying not to start laughing again.  Didn't  
work.....ROTLOL* 
 
>  What is the truth of the universe?
 
LOL...that's something we're all here to figure out.
 
>  Oopsie! You interpreted my words "ME" and "YOU" as meaning individuals. I  
> was not 
>  clear enough, sorry. We are individuals but we are also One, are we not? 
 
If I wanted to be an ass right now I'd tell you to prove it.  No subjective  
input.  Prove it. :)  But my answer is not until we shed these bodies...not  
in the cullest capacity that we are capable of...mostly because the physical  
body cannot handle the range of frequencies and strength of the energy waves  
that those without physical bodies can.
 
I  
> can't 
>  prove that but it feels good so I go with it. 
 
But you can't think that way, and neither can anyone else, because you made  
such thoughts inadmissable to the Court of the Cosmos, remember? ;0)  Don't  
you hate it when you hang yourself like that???? *grinning*
 
I don't close doors, I just  
> don't 
>  choose to dwell in a lot of the empty rooms some doors lead to.
 
But whether they are empty or not will always be a matter of perception, and  
inadmissable as well, since it is so subjective. *giggling*
 
>  > Actually, what I believe is dependent upon personal experience only.   
Bits 
>  
>  Those are the only beliefs to place faith in, I would agree.
 
*laughs*  We agree on something?  Woohoo! :0)
 
>  Gee, you sound like me, how come we are arguing? 
>  ;)
 
I dunno...probably because you came across as an atheistic jackass in your  
last post who denied anything but physical you and me. :0) I think that's  
where the majority disagreement comes in.  Or it could be that I have a  
strong distaste for organized religions.
 
>  So, is there a division between "divinity" and "humanity"...is there  
really? 
>  P'raps reaching a point of realizing completely that a division does not  
> need to 
>  be drawn is what it takes to "ascend"?
 
There is a line drawn when we are physically incarnated, from my  
experience....the limited ability I've noticed to handle energy does separate  
a bit. :) 
   
Kimberly
 
 
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