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Recieved: 1999/11/15 12:00
Subject: [K-list] Kundalini is not an energy?????
From: winter mute
On 1999/11/15 12:00, winter mute posted thus to the K-list:
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Only the gate
of the abbey is left,
on the winter moor.
-Shiki
On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:44:58 Tony O'Clery wrote:
> That most of what we call K activity is actually a
>movement of Prana, cleansing as it goes. The true K is
>actually an awareness and is so subtle it is not
>experienced like the Prana-K. It is above the
>manamayakosa/mind. For it is a reflection of the Atma
>or Soul, and is associated with vijnanamayakosa or
>'awareness sheath'. So the more spiritually advanced
>one is, the less the obvious experiences and symptoms.
>In fact total realisation is no experience at all, the
>risen K turns into the Heart Centre and becomes
>Samadhi.
Yes, and as you know since you have already
mentioned it,
there is something called Prana-Kundalini.
This is K expressed through the prana.
But there is also something which has been
observed and given the name of
Para-Kundalini and Shakti-Kundalini
which is working in higher levels like you
describe it and comes tip toeing along
when you least expect it.
The different traditions have different names
for it.
>Definite symptoms of K really are experienced in the
>early days. If one becomes attached to these symptoms
>and imagines this is the end, then the more one's
>bondage in illusion increases. For energy itself is
>the illusion.
Yadda, yadda,
"Kundalini is liberation for the wise and
bondage for the fool".
Ever read Ramana Maharshi ?
I may be a fool, but I'm not quite so foolish as to get
myself completely attached to
detachment.
>Giving Shaktipat comes from a realised Guru for the
>Guru is God. Anything less is a stimulation with
>Prana, Chi, Ki, Mana or whatever you wish to call it.
>Reiki is a good explanation. For total realisation
>experiencing the energy is not enough there must also
>be some spiritual practice. In a very few years the
>risen K will be so common, on the planet, that only
>the spiritual practice will make the difference. My
>guess.
You're welcome. :)
Spiritual practice may have as many forms and
expressions as Kundalini herself
and have nothing to do with "breathing" ham sa and
touting one's guru.
Spiritual practice that may not be so "practice"
after all:
Unceasing observation of consciousness itself.
Total surrender to god.
Total surrender to the ideal of ahimsa
Unceasing service to all, also known as Karma Yoga and
advocated strongly, by amongst others,
Babaji.
You don't always need to be a truck driver to get somewhere, you know.
Amanda.
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