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Recieved: 1999/11/14  12:31  
Subject: [K-list] Shaktipat? 
From: winter mute
  
On 1999/11/14  12:31, winter mute posted thus to the K-list: 
 
On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 08:10:32   Jenell wrote:
 
>Am I giving these people what in Hindu or whatever is called 
>'shaktipat'?
 
No. 
 
Shakti-pat or Shakti-pata 
directly translated means "descendance of the power".
 
Shakti-pat is awakening of others' Shakti, 
also called Kundalini.
 
So, following this definition, you are not giving them 
shakti-pat.
 
That does not mean, however, that the experiences 
are valuable and deeply spiritual for those 
who experience it and for you.
 
Have you looked into Reiki ?
 
What yo are doing sounds also (apart from the 
Pentecostal stuff you describe) 
like how one may describe Reiki treatments.
 
>And if so, does that make me in some sense, a 'guru'? 
 
In the Indian traditions, a "guru" is someone who 
has been fully absorbed into the All and has retained 
the physical body. S/he is a Jivanmukti, meaning  
"liberated while living". 
(Liberated here meaning liberated of all sense 
impressions and attachments. 
These are just words. What it really entails is 
almost inpossible to understand) 
Not everybody who becomes fully and stably absorbed 
go on living in the physical body after this has 
happened.
 
The absorbed mindbody, now being truly ego less, 
but still having an individuality (a real 
contradiction) can be recognized via various means, 
the most obvious being the state of no breathing 
and no pulse at times, indicating absorption at will 
into the infinite energy.
 
Paramahansa Yogananda mentions this phenomenon in his 
and others' gurus many times and describes well 
his surprise at finding his master in meditation, without breathing and panicking at the sight. :D
 
Best regards,
 
Amanda. 
 
 
 
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