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Recieved: 1999/11/08 07:38
Subject: Re: [K-list] Verbal noise
From: Jenell
On 1999/11/08 07:38, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:
The mind works in many ways similar to our computers. One way that
analogy can be made is in the processing management of data. While to
our 'usual' consciousness, the stuff we 'put in' makes 'sense' to us,
and, hopefully, the stuff that comes out as a result of the processing
of that data, hopefully, makes sense, we really don't have much
awareness of the processes in between. This 'rocessing' is what has been
going on when we've considered all the daa, consciously, and have come
no closer to a solution, and suddenly, like a light bub flicking on,
there's the 'answer' that has seemingly mysteriously appeared, in full
blown form, in our concious mind. What we call things like thought,
reasoning, memory storage and retrieval, etc. Like me using this
computer, I really don't know much about how it works, what's going on
inside it, I just care that it does what I want it to.
We've all seen when someone has tried to post or send as email something
not formatted in a way to allow that transmission to work right, what
turns up is strings of number sequences and gibberish. I'd say what you
experienced was something along the line of, by you combination of being
tired and having done a lot of meditation, having you 'conscious aware'
mnd come into contact with some of that 'processing' stuff going on in
other areas of your brain.
I've not exerenced quite what you did, my mind full of gibberish, but I
have experienced periods of what I call mental fogginess, like my mind
is full of static, as one might hear from a radio not set well onto a
station. With myself in that, I've recognized a pattern, that this
occurs not only after a lot of meditation and being tired, but durig or
following periods in which in my conscious mind, I've been 'cramming' in
a lot of new data, studying, learning, a lot of new stuff, or very deep,
complex stuff. I would think this is a noraml phenomenon connected to
the processes of the brain in learning.
Having studied animal behavior, it is noted that with such as dogs, we
often see them, during sleep, involuntarily twitching, jerking, even
emitting moans and barks and other sounds, even seeming to be running,
in their sleep. Studies have shown that this seems to be connected to
learning process, as during the greatest periods of new experiences, the
involuntary body motions in sleep increase correspondingly.
The use of a drug such as you took in this would be something I'd
seriously question. Drugs that artifically affect our normal processes
of the mind and emotions are usually detrimental to allowing these
normal processes to work themselves out to completion.
Jenell
Ville Vainio wrote:
>
> A weirdest thing happened to me this weekend. I was home alone, and played
> some computer games too long => didn't get enough sleep. When I woke up in
> the morning, I felt trouble "gathering" my toughts - my mind was filled
> with verbal noise, words that were of no sensible language (probably
> random combination of syllables). This was slightly entertaining
> initially, but I started to worry as it didn't seem to go away with time
> like these "morning-experiences" usually do. The flow of nonsense
> inhibited normal cognition to some extent. Obviously I could have
> "terminated" the experience immediately with well-gauged amount of select
> psychoactives, but I chose to observe & determine what this new phenomenon
> is like. This experience in fact forced me to let go of control (the more
> control I attempted to impose on it, the more crappy I felt). After I
> allowed the experience to happen and took the position of complete
> ego-surrender, I felt overwhelming surge of bliss... walked around the
> house, being what I really am, with NO ego presence. This feeling reduced
> somewhat with time, luckily. I can't imagine doing any sort of social
> stuff (eg. talking, studying) in that state of mind.
>
> In the evening I wasn't tired enough to sleep, so I, spiritually mature
> individual that I am, chose to tune myself down with 10mg of diazepam. It
> always serves to remind who is the boss in the house - ego or K.
>
> Similar experiences, anyone? Any idea what happened? I'm going to reduce
> my meditation frequency, for sure...
>
> Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
> We're all puppets
> The first step on the path to understanding is seeing the strings
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